[charnockpro]

Ok Dave you got me on that one on a technicality, Hagen was a supremely talented player and Jimmy Demaret to a lesser sense, but as a general rule i think practice makes permanent

"I don't think its the SECRET of golf, but I do think alot of what he believes in is revolutionary. Why?? I had been going to a teacher that was a protege or Craig Harmon for a long time, and my thoughts were always "the harmons are the greatest, why doesn't everyone go to them". Then I went to an IU golf camp, and they told me things that were totaly differant than what the Harmons teach. I was confused, but he said this, but they said this?? He has split the fundementals up, so we don't have people teaching differant things all the time. Everyoen here knows they have gone to one guy and heard one thing, then gone to another and been told to do something differant. It's confusing!!"

In golf there is more than one way to swing a golf club due to many differing factors, and the greatest exponent in book form for me is "The LAWS" by TJ Tomasi and Dr Suttie, this book says there is a few differing patterns to swing a golf club which can also intertwine with other swing types creating a hybrid golf swing. It may be confusing to hear one guy say one thing and someone say something else, but that is what makes the game of golf so good

and the shallowing/steepening moves that Hardy talks about is also revoulutionary.
This is not a revolutionary thought at all it is all about being to flat and inside on the way back and then coming back onto plane i.e hale irwin, leadbetter as well may have taught a system but by god it has been a good system, Nick Price, Nick Faldo, Nick Dougherty and many more up and coming players and leadbetter is known as the most astute and knowledgable teachers in the game.

I personally have read the one and two plane swing book by Mr Hardy and while a good book i didnt find anything i hadnt already read anywhere else be it hank haney, jim flick, rick smith, david leadbetter, bob toski, ben hogan, they are all worth reading and finding what works for you.