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The 2 plane swing that hardy teaches is the same as John Jacobs, and has most of the elements of mainstream teaching today. Basically, its the mainstream teaching method of today right now.
I agree that any golf swing is all the things you mentioned. it's not like I can swing a golf club without those things moving successfully [ mr. Jacobs was Mr. Hardy's mentor for a long time, but sparked his interest when He asked about Ben Hogan's swing, Jacobs said "he swings on 1 plane" ]. I have never heard of shanks in a hardy 1 plane golf swing, unless they are doing it TOTALLY incorrectly. I have heard of pushes, but that is a problem that needs to be corrected as in any other golf swing problem. They will avoid getting the club behind them?? That's an interesting comment. I guess you can have your own opinion on that, but I have never heard of ANYONE having that problem, along with a person's swing getting too round. A hardy 1 plane swing is not too round, as many people think, it is just on a flatter plane. I think the things you stated about the arms moving when body driven are obvious.
I know that you are sincere in that whatever works do it, but I have never found a person [ and that is all the people on the internet on hardy's forum, oneplanegolfswing.com, and all the people I have helped ] that if they did his fundementals correctly, had problems. I like jacobs ideas, about the 2 plane golf swing, and Hardy also states this. So much so, that he based all his 2 plane ideals of jacobs. I also agree that it is hard to avoid complexity, but that is why what hardy is so great, he has simplified it to the most basic level possible. Theres no Tgm/morad 30 release positions.
Charnockpro, I understand that you have read his book and not felt like you got anything that you didn't get with any other teacher. I agree with that in the 2 plane section, but what teacher stressed what he did in the 1 plane section??? If you found one, I'd love to know. I researched this stuff for a month straight, ever night, reading books and everything. I feel like I've read every golf "guru", and no one had the same as hardy's one plane swing, and in my opinion, no one came close to what is in Hogan's, sneads, and in alot of ways nelsons swing.
I also agree that there are tons of ways to swing a golf club. But what hardy has done is put it down to 2 differant ways, and everything in between. Again, its not like TGM where theres a million ways to do it, theres 2 ways, and you fall into one of those 2. It's that simple. I agree that that is what makes the game so great, but simplifying it isn't such a bad thing, is it???
Anyway, I understand that some people won't agree with Hardy is saying. No one person will have everyons support. But I also don't think that people thinking that way have the whole story. I personally think that Hardy's book did a poor job for the most part stressing the things that has made Hardy so popular among the pros [ because he didn't want to confuse people, It has been posted on other forums that a person saw 20% of people working on Hardy fundementals at the nationwide tour championship, specifically the twist and throw ]. I think the master class [ or whatever its called ] will clear many things up. You must remember that Hardy never taught ameteurs, so he didn't understand what they would need or feel when taking up his golf swings. He now has [ and had when he made the dvds, which are great ] a better understanding, and I am looking forward to the book to see how he has changed the ways he speaks his golf swing.  |