Lyle,what have you done?

[dave.]

I read on daily basis now about the latest convert to back weighting.Its spreading like a desease.But I do not know anything about it.

If its so beneficial why don't the manufacturers offer options in back wieghts? What does it do? Why doesn't the head on a back weighted driver feel ridiculously light? etc etc etc I would like to know more if you can help,just to understand it.

One guy on another board has lopped a 1" off the butt of his driver and is now throwing in a lump of metal he got from Lowes under his grip.I just imagine the R&D director throwing up when he reads that,or is it really a magic potion?

[LyleG]

Pro's have been backweighting for years. There are least 3 companies that make golf specific backweight products.
Backweighting fools the swingweight scale and will give a rediculously low reading, but the good part is you wont feel it because of the location of the weight. It is so far up on the shaft that you dont feel it in relation to the head. What I do is find a swingweight I want, then backweight. No need to check the SW again as it is not important anymore. The club will feel like it did at the original number.
What this does is improve feel. You still feel the head, but now have more weight in the hands which gives more control of the club. This allows for a better release and seems to improve center face contact in all people who test it. The trick is to find the weight that works for you.

With putter most men see a huge benifit with between 70 -100g of weight, with drivers the number seems to be between 20-40g.

This has been around for years. Nicklaus was a big fan of backweighting, so was Gary Player. It works.

Here are a few links to some different products.

SHAFT BUTT WEIGHT PORTS

Golfsmithcanada.com: Canada

myOstrich Golf Clubmakers Tools

Golf Components: Winn Tour Lock Pro Grip

[dave.]

Ta

I like messing around with these sorts of things,I am going to give it a go

[ManchesterGolfer]

Originally Posted by dave.

Ta

I like messing around with these sorts of things,I am going to give it a go

Dave, let me know what results you find. Also if you manage to find a place over here that stocks the stuff to do it as well,

P.

[dave.]

Where is that matey?

[Jules150]

Lyle-I am intrested in backweighting my putter too, am i guaranteed the back wieght will fit into my putter or do i have to find out the size of the shaft and buy a weight according to that?

[LyleG]

Yes, they fit any shaft. You use an allen wrench to tighten them in place. You may need to file/grind the butt end piece flush with the shaft however as they are made large to accomodate a wide variety of shafts.

[clemsonhacker]

nevermind , was half asleep

[dave.]

Originally Posted by clemsonhacker

does doing this get the swingweight out of wack

see Lyle's post above

[Pa Jayhawk]

This seemed like the most related old thread to dig up to ask these questions. ***puts the shovel away***

I am planning on Counterbalancing (backweighting) my putter 100g. Did it on my old putter with lead tape, and liked the feel. Then adding either 20-30g with my driver. I plan on using the Tour Lock Pros by Winn and Golfsmith to complete this process. A couple questions for Lyle, or any who have done so as it seems to be more common. I see the shaft makes no difference, although I see Winn offer a grip which I fully intend to use my own grip. I would assume it is no problem to use your own putter or driver grip?

Secondly, has anyone ever tried this on their Fairway woods as well? I ask this because I am not sure it would make a hugh difference between 20 and 30. However, from taking the overall weight of my FW's and having gone to graphite shafts from steel on FW's mainly because that was the option. It would appear if I backweight the FW's with 20g, and the driver with 30g, it would also give me an almost identical weight on all three clubs, as well as the same aldila shaft (which at this point I am happy enough with and will not be changing till extensive testing), I think it may add to consistency in feel. Plus I actually think I preffered the heavier weight of the steel shafts on my old FW's. Plus if it gave me a tighter dispersion pattern, it would only help. Now I realize that in adding 20-30 grams of weight, it would logical slow my swing speed down a couple MPH, however from reading that the counterweight may also allow me to keep the club set longer, I wouldn't be surprised if I didn't get more distance in the end, and if I don't then losing a couple yards would be negligible to me or even the gaps in those clubs as compared to that of my 4i.

So, has anyone tried this in a FW or have an opinion on what I mentioned as to whether it makes sense? And again, I assume any grip will do?

edit 1 - BTW, while Golfsmith requires $75 spent to get free shipping, you can buy these from Amazon and it goes through Golfsmith, and the shipping is free, at least at the current time and in the USA.

[SplooGe]

I've seen this discussion with drivers and putters, would the theory hold for irons, FW's and hybrids as well?

edit: missed Jayhawks post. gotta actually read the threads and reply within 20 min of opening...damn work getting in the way of my golf obession.

[ualtim]

You can use just about any grip, but I would suggest getting the grip modifier from GS to give it a nice clean fit. It drills a perfect size hole for the TLp weight and grinds down the end cap to create a nice counter sink to put the flange of the TLP into.

I have back weighted every club in the bag at one point or another. Driver through wedges with 30g and putter with 100g.

[SilverUberXeno]

I backweighted/counterweighted my putter 100g and it's really nice.

[Pa Jayhawk]

Originally Posted by ualtim

You can use just about any grip, but I would suggest getting the grip modifier from GS to give it a nice clean fit. It drills a perfect size hole for the TLp weight and grinds down the end cap to create a nice counter sink to put the flange of the TLP into.

I have back weighted every club in the bag at one point or another. Driver through wedges with 30g and putter with 100g.

Thanks!!! Never would have even known such an animal existed.

Just to be certain, I assume this is what you are referring too?
Golfsmith.com: Golfsmith TLP Grip Modifier Tool - Golfsmith
Did your other clubs and specifically the FW's work out like you planned? Any adverse effects? Also, what weights did you use on your Driver and FW's?

Originally Posted by SilverUberXeno

I backweighted/counterweighted my putter 100g and it's really nice.

I am pretty set on doing 100g on my Putter, I had some little metal prep cups in the kitchen, stacked 3 to a weight of 108g worth on the end of my putter and it really didn't seem like much weight as I expected for the putter, but did seem to steady the hands like when I added the 3 feet of lead tape under the grip on my last putter. Much easier than wrapping 3 feet of tape down the shaft and trying to grip it with a good feel

[Pa Jayhawk]

Wow!!!

Reading the Tool instruction, I just assumed this went under the grip. I just regripped my Driver and two Fairway woods, and was getting ready to do my putter. I just figured I would be out the money for the grips, didn't realize I would be able to do it outside the grip and replace them if needed without regripping. That also eliminates my fear of getting the right weight and wasting a $7 grip everytime I want to change. That will pay for itself in the price of the grips in just what I initially plan to do.

I would assume there is no problem with the grips falling apart from the end, or the weights coming out when using this method??
http://www.golfsmith.com/pdf/292365_...ifier_Tool.pdf

Thanks alot!!!