Golfer's get EMO about shaft spines

[zaphod]

I find it interesting that golfers that form an opinion about the significance of a spine in a golf shaft need to prove that opinion is an absolute. I see golfers able to deal with the fact some people like brands of club they don't like. But spining. Is it a "good" vs "evil" thing?

The whole thing is WHOA calm down.

[SilverUberXeno]

I really don't know what your point was here...

Spined shafts are more effective. I don't know why anyone would think otherwise. But if you prefer that your shaft doesn't work to its full potential, I could care less...?

[warbirdlover]

zaphod splines all his shafts, irons too. He's not arguing against it, he's saying there are some that don't believe it, some who do (like yourself) and not much middle ground. Now you get the point?

[Sandpiper3]

I honestly dont know why someone wouldnt (unless they didnt even konw what spining was).

OBV you want your clubs to be at 100% best they can be at.

[Jules150]

Anybody have stats on how many pros spine their shafts? Or even a vague idea?

[Sandpiper3]

110%.

Obv every spec is down to the detail with these guys.

[zaphod]

Thanks for clarifying WBL

I do not think the pros request their shafts get splined. If I'm on the tour with club sponsors fighting for my endorsement I'm not going to get "RETAIL" clubs.
Hand chosen heads true to loft lie and and open closed faces. Hand chosen shafts. Final builds frequency checked. Spining is just a small part of that process.

Retail clubs for us mortals. That's a different matter. This is where $$$ are made. Both on selling price and Cost of Production. If the consumer does not demand a quality product thats what he gets. Buying retail clubs off shelf or from a club maker. I'll take the club maker every time. Have not heard from a posting club maker who does not include spining/floing in the process. He/She needs to put out a superior product to compete. In today's business environment you either compete with generic merchandise world wide or you build a small admiring local customer base.

What the post related to was how strongly the non believer in spining protests. Why?

[LyleG]

Next time you see Phil play notice the project X labels on his irons, they are all over the place. Either spined or just thrown together in the dark.

[WildCatGolfer17]

Originally Posted by LyleG

Next time you see Phil play notice the project X labels on his irons, they are all over the place. Either spined or just thrown together in the dark.

I think its spinned just put them all over for people to see what hes using...

[Rockford35]

I've spined and not spined my drivers many times in the past with little difference. My fairway woods are not spined and I pump them. Same goes with my current driver, and the last half dozen I've played.

My irons, however, are spined and I wouldn't play with a set that wasn't. Steel has a crazy spine factor, but I won't buy that graphite does. Well, graphite of any worth. Obviously, better shafts are going to be constructed with better quality in mind. Obviously, that could be somewhat naive, but I've yet to see much difference.

Steel, yes. Graphite, no.

R35

[The Salt Vampire]

I'm a newbie with spining or at least with how valuable it might be. Is there a consensus as to where the spine should be aligned? I have heard a few different things.

Also, the pros are about 85% on spining. At least that's what it says on the SST PURE website.

[LyleG]

I have seen as much as a 10 cpm difference just by turning the shaft 90* in the frequency machine. Spines in graphite can be huge.

[zaphod]

NBP (normal bend point) the softest area of shaft lined up down range is my option.

Lyle, A 10 cpm would translate in Rifles for instance from a 5.5 to 6.5?? Or a full flex such as a stiff to an x? If this is true it really reinforces my belief that irons are imperative to spine. Correct?

[ualtim]

Originally Posted by zaphod

NBP (normal bend point) the softest area of shaft lined up down range is my option.

Agreed, I also prefer NBP pointing down range.

You can flip it 180*, but according to the literature I received with the spine tool, that is more likely to be preferred by players who like to work the ball a lot.

[LyleG]

Originally Posted by zaphod

NBP (normal bend point) the softest area of shaft lined up down range is my option.

Lyle, A 10 cpm would translate in Rifles for instance from a 5.5 to 6.5?? Or a full flex such as a stiff to an x? If this is true it really reinforces my belief that irons are imperative to spine. Correct?

I also align NBP to target, this always leads to the most consistent set up imo. It allows the shaft to bend freely along its most stable plane while the spine helps eliminate toe droop.
The shaft I found a 10 cpm difference on was not an iron shaft. It was a grafalloy prolaunch in R flex. Most shafts will differ between 1 and 5 cpm.