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Old 10-26-2005, 09:13 AM
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Thinking of wrapping my driver round a tree.

I am a mid handicapper (16) and have very bad days and very average days with the big stick, never very good days. I can't help but wonder whether it is wrong for me. Obviously if I have a perfect swing I woulnd't have any problem! My natural swing promotes a fade, I am working on reducing it and most of the time with my irons, the fade is controllable.

However, my driver fades massively if not slicing. I use a Wilson Deep Red II Distance driver, 10 degree loft and stiff shaft. I have no trouble getting the ball in the air on a great trajectory so I'm sure the loft is cool. When I bought the driver the guy in the shop said that the shafts were a bit more flexible than normal drivers so a stiff was more like a regular. After reading many articles I have found that too stiff a shaft can mean that you struggle to get the face closed in time.

Do you thing getting a draw bias driver and a lighter more flexible shaft would help? e.g r5 Dual Type D, Fusion FT-3 Draw etc?
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Old 10-26-2005, 09:19 AM
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I don't think I'd blame the driver, as it sounds like it is only exposing a flaw in the swin that the other clubs hide better. The driver is the longest club with the lowest loft, so it will make small mistakes bigger. The lower loft creates less backspin, which promotes more sidespin.

I would personally just not hit the driver at all until the swing is ready for it. You should get an idea when to try it again as the other clubs become straighter.

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Old 10-26-2005, 10:21 AM
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I am a mid handicapper (16) and have very bad days and very average days with the big stick, never very good days. I can't help but wonder whether it is wrong for me. Obviously if I have a perfect swing I woulnd't have any problem! My natural swing promotes a fade, I am working on reducing it and most of the time with my irons, the fade is controllable.

However, my driver fades massively if not slicing. I use a Wilson Deep Red II Distance driver, 10 degree loft and stiff shaft. I have no trouble getting the ball in the air on a great trajectory so I'm sure the loft is cool. When I bought the driver the guy in the shop said that the shafts were a bit more flexible than normal drivers so a stiff was more like a regular. After reading many articles I have found that too stiff a shaft can mean that you struggle to get the face closed in time.

Do you thing getting a draw bias driver and a lighter more flexible shaft would help? e.g r5 Dual Type D, Fusion FT-3 Draw etc?
I am not familiar with the shaft in the Deep Red II, but it could be that it does not have a low enough tourque rating for your swing. A reshafting to a low tourque shaft may do the trick. I have a few drivers, and when a friend left his clubs out of town one week I let him try them all out on the range so he could decide which to play. He is a scratch player with a fast swing speed, so I would have bet good money that he would have played better with the stiffer shaft, but ended up hitting a regular flex Graffalloy Blue High Launch straighter than the Penley Stiff shaft. He was losing the ball very far to the right with the Penley, and only had a slight fade with the Graffalloy. Long story short, it could just be your shaft.
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My question would be, are the shafts in all of his other clubs wrong for him too? If you can't shoot any of the arrows, it's probably the injun. JMO...
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Shafting that driver is not an option. The fat shaft can only be replaced with a wilson shaft.
If all the clubs are the same shot pattern then the longer shaft makes it worse. I would fix the swing flaw before I did any other changing.
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DR2 isn't a fat shaft, is it? I thought they had moved to normal shafts for the DR2 series...?

Obviously, I could be wrong. I tried to get my DR Fat Shaft redone and ended up turfing it and going to the Launcher because of the BS with the shaft.
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My bad. I read it wrong. That shaft can be replaced.
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I believe the distance version is a fat-shaft, the DRII Tour has a .350 tip. I am led to believe there are shims which will allow you to reshaft a fatshaft with a normal one (I cannot speak to the success of this, but these things are out there).

That said, I agree that you should sort out the swing first. There's nothing worse than changing all your gear, then your swing and finding that your clubs are no good with your new swing.
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