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  1. Graphite shaft printing?

    Up or Down?

    I just noticed that about half of my drivers, fairways, and hybrids have the printing so that you can see it while holding the club. On the others, it's facing down.

    Why?

    It's things like this that bother me.
    TaylorMade Tour Burner TP 10.5° Penley Stealth "JD"
    Tour Edge Exotics 15° Penley Stealth "JD"
    Nickent 3DX Ironwood DC 17° & 20° UST Proforce V2
    Hogan Forged Radial 3-SW
    Never Compromise VooDoo

    Augusta, GA

    Do you know the difference between a BMW and a porcupine? The porcupine has its' pricks on the outside.

  2. #2
    Has to do with how the shaft is made and installed, the seam is under the printing and the seam is suppose too be installed up or down and the printing
    makes it easy for the installers to find the seam.

    I believe...according too Tom Wishon
    When asked how to put back spin on a i7,
    Trevino said how far do you hit it?
    The guy said 120yds and Trevino said why do you want to back it up?

  3. Not many shaft makers put graphics on with any thought at all to the spine or flo planes of the shaft. Some like Graman for example apply the graphics so that when the shaft is properly installed the graphics end up on top (for a righty, for a lefty they will be on the bottom). I usually tell people when I install shafts for them that the graphics may not end up on top once the shaft is "properly installed", most people are Ok with this as performance should come ahead of looks.

  4. So does Doc have some clubs with the shafts installed wrong?

    What's In the Bag
    Ping G10 9º w/ stiff Diamana BB
    Cobra F Speed LD 3-wood 15.5º w/ reg YS Tour AD
    Cobra Baffler DWS 20º & 23º w/ reg VS Proto HL
    Ping S59 3-PW w/ stiff Nippon PRO 950GH
    Titleist Vokey Spin Milled 56º wedge
    Scotty Cameron Circa 62 #3 35"
    Adidas Powerband shoes
    Ogio Atlas Golf Bag
    Titleist NXT extreme ball

    Location: southeastern Wisconsin
    Low 18: 78 (once)
    Low 18: 79 (five times)
    Low 9: 36 (twice)
    Hdcp: 15.5
    Aces: 1

  5. hard to sat if they are installed wrong or not. Many guys install shafts simply by either putting to the logo facing up, or down if the player finds it distracting. They never consider the spine or most consistant bend point of the shaft. IMO any shaft that isnt FLO'ed is installed wrong.

  6. Quote Originally Posted by warbirdlover View Post
    So does Doc have some clubs with the shafts installed wrong?


    A new excuse!
    TaylorMade Tour Burner TP 10.5° Penley Stealth "JD"
    Tour Edge Exotics 15° Penley Stealth "JD"
    Nickent 3DX Ironwood DC 17° & 20° UST Proforce V2
    Hogan Forged Radial 3-SW
    Never Compromise VooDoo

    Augusta, GA

    Do you know the difference between a BMW and a porcupine? The porcupine has its' pricks on the outside.

  7. Both my NT's are facing down but more towards the right. The kid pulled the X out of the R5TP and knew it had been installed on the TM van. Not sure if he just kept the NT's logo's in the same spot due this or what the reason was. I don't pay it much mind asthetically.

    TourEdge CB1 13* CompNT 85-S
    Titleist 906F4 18.5* Speeder761
    RescueMid TP 22* S300
    Titleist 704CB 4i-PW S300
    Vokey 50-08
    Titleist Proto 55*
    Vokey SM 60*
    Wilson KCII
    Ogio Vaporlite Stand bag

    Cap - 9.8
    Location - Providence, RI

  8. My logos are all over the place as I spine all of my shafts before instalation. Prior to spining, PUREing, and FLO'ing I believe that since a few tour pros found the graphics distracting (or they were not endorsed by the shaft company) and turned graphics side down a host of casual golfers did the same. Same deal with the graphics on the Golf Pride grips that have the big "Golf Pride" down the front of the grip. A few well known pros started turning the logo side down (probably were not getting an endoresment payment from Golf Pride) and next you thing you know everyone is doing it. It became such a trend, that some Titleist branded GP grips are actually desinged logo side down.

    If the pros do it, there must be something to it, right?

    (sarcasm intended)
    Crooked Cat + Crooked Driver = Crooked numbers on the card.
    "Rodney has left the bag"


    Ping Rapture 10.5* TFC 909 Regular
    Ping G10 17* 4 Wood TFC 129 Regular
    Bobby Jones H3-21*, H4-25*. Graphite Design JS-7 Stiff
    Ping i10 5-PW, UW, SW, LW, Z-Z65 Stiff, WRX Custom TS Grind PW-LW .
    Rife 2 Bar Black Mallet. 33" 150g TLP back weight.

    -----------------------------------
    John "Bravo" Bretz 1955-2008
    -----------------------------------

  9. The reason the pros have the logos on the bottom of the club and grip is so that in the backswing pose, viewers at home can get a clear view of what is being used. This is no coincedence.
    Most logo application on pro equipment is done after assembly of the club.

  10. #10
    Mine are floed pured and spine aligned, the logos are all over the place.
    Titleist 905R 9.5* Fujikura Speeder stiff tipped 1" 44"
    Titleist 904F 15* Fujikura Speeder Stiff tipped 1"
    2-PW Mizuno MP-33 TT DG X100
    54* Callaway X-Tour Vintage DG X100
    60* Callaway X-Tour Vintage bent to 59* DG X100
    Taylormade Rossa Daytona 1
    Titleist Pro V1X

    USGA Handicap: +1.27
    Location: Carrollton, TX

  11. Quote Originally Posted by demon View Post
    Mine are floed pured and spine aligned, the logos are all over the place.
    How does one do that?
    TaylorMade Tour Burner TP 10.5° Penley Stealth "JD"
    Tour Edge Exotics 15° Penley Stealth "JD"
    Nickent 3DX Ironwood DC 17° & 20° UST Proforce V2
    Hogan Forged Radial 3-SW
    Never Compromise VooDoo

    Augusta, GA

    Do you know the difference between a BMW and a porcupine? The porcupine has its' pricks on the outside.

  12. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by SiberianDVM View Post
    How does one do that?
    Send the shafts into golfsmith and they will come back to you with an arrow around the grip area that shows the builder where to line it up at. I am not sure if it helps but if it does then I am ready for it. Most of the graphite shafts have a primary and a secondary spine and generally benefit more for spine alignment. It supposedly creates consistency in the shaft.
    Titleist 905R 9.5* Fujikura Speeder stiff tipped 1" 44"
    Titleist 904F 15* Fujikura Speeder Stiff tipped 1"
    2-PW Mizuno MP-33 TT DG X100
    54* Callaway X-Tour Vintage DG X100
    60* Callaway X-Tour Vintage bent to 59* DG X100
    Taylormade Rossa Daytona 1
    Titleist Pro V1X

    USGA Handicap: +1.27
    Location: Carrollton, TX

  13. #13
    I perfer my graphics down. Dont really like seeing the writing on it... My 3w got shaft put in upside down, and he put a damned ribbed grip in there urg...

    He still needs to fix both those for me!.....
    Driver: Adams Speedline 9032LS 8.5* Aldila VooDoo SNV6
    3 Wood: Adams Insight 12.5* Grafalloy PL Red S
    Hybrid: Adams Idea Pro Gold Mitsubishi Javln h80
    2i-pw: Cobra Pro CB-MB Combo DG X100
    48*, 54*,60*: Titleist Vokey Spin Milled DG X100
    Putter: Scotty Cameron Circa 62 No. 3 Pro Platinum 350g

  14. Quote Originally Posted by SiberianDVM View Post
    How does one do that?
    You can do it yourself if you buy a spine finder. I bought one off of E-bay (I believe its called JB's Spine Tool) that I have been using for the last year or so. If I recall correctly, I got for around $50. If you send it to Golfsmith, its $10 a shaft. If your planning to do more than 5 or 6 shafts, its a more economical way to go.
    Crooked Cat + Crooked Driver = Crooked numbers on the card.
    "Rodney has left the bag"


    Ping Rapture 10.5* TFC 909 Regular
    Ping G10 17* 4 Wood TFC 129 Regular
    Bobby Jones H3-21*, H4-25*. Graphite Design JS-7 Stiff
    Ping i10 5-PW, UW, SW, LW, Z-Z65 Stiff, WRX Custom TS Grind PW-LW .
    Rife 2 Bar Black Mallet. 33" 150g TLP back weight.

    -----------------------------------
    John "Bravo" Bretz 1955-2008
    -----------------------------------

  15. Flowing is done with a laser, and a vise. Put the shaft in the vice (butt end) using a butt clamp and attach the laser and a 205 gram tip weight. You them "twang" the shaft till till the oscilation is flat not round or oval.
    here are a few links

    http://www.horsepowergolf.com/VideoSpineFrequency.asp (this guy is simply using the head (attached with bubble wrap to hold it in place) and twanging, OK but not as accurate as using a laser)
    http://www.thegolfcoast.com/shaft_spine.html (again using the head instead of a tip weight)
    http://www.myostrichgolf.com/clubmak...roducts_id=245
    (this is what I use)

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