SwingWork

[ezra76]

Well I went to the range and had my GF take a few vids. Still doesn't look anywhere near what I'm after but it's getting a little better. I've weakened my grip considerably and worked a lot on the takeaway. Today I concentrated on turning the head over on the driver and used the little "step through" move to work on a full finish. By the end of the session I was hitting them pretty well, right down the pipe, slight draw or slight fade depending on setup. I am still sliding a bit with the hips as I see and trying to get a good tranfer to the right side is leading to a bit of an overswing. This will take some time as when I shorten up and try to turn more from the hips I go OTT and get a nice skymark every time. Please let me know what you think the next step to work on is... Every other time I've gotten good feedback, keep it coming.

http://media.putfile.com/Hitgoodlooklikehit That's supposed to say "look like $hit" putfile removed the $ though.

[demon]

your sliding a lot but you already knew that. Also you look like you are standing a little close to the ball making it easy for you to come OTT.

[ezra76]

Any suggestions to help out the slide? This has been there since day 1. I've had people say it's robbing my power?? Not sure how much more I'll get, 185yd. 6irons and 275 yd. carry drives ain't too shabby for a powerleaking swing... Anyway, I sometimes swing off just my left leg or stand on a ball with my right outstep, any other tricks? Maybe go over to the grass area and stick a pole in the ground?

[demon]

Originally Posted by ezra76

Any suggestions to help out the slide? This has been there since day 1. I've had people say it's robbing my power?? Not sure how much more I'll get, 185yd. 6irons and 275 yd. carry drives ain't too shabby for a powerleaking swing... Anyway, I sometimes swing off just my left leg or stand on a ball with my right outstep, any other tricks? Maybe go over to the grass area and stick a pole in the ground?

I used to slide a lot too, what stopped me from sliding was just rotating where I stood or not try to transfer my weight to the right side. I looked at the video and i still transfered the weight to the right side but did it without sliding. You can lose power through sliding because you are not creating resistance in your coil. It may feel wierd but try to just turn in place and video tape it then look at the video and you will see that you are putting weight on the right side and not sliding as much.

Plus you are releasing way too early, this is another OTT move.

[demon]

Look at your OTT in this capture, since you are almost fully released (wrist wise) and still have a ways to go you have nowhere to go but over the top or you probably wouldnt hit the ball.

[fore142]

u like the waggle dont you? i thought you were never going to hit the ball.
Now about the swing, you do come a little bit ott. If you fight a fade, thats probably why. THey are also correct in saying that you slide back, and slide forward. If you can, get two pulled shafts that you dont care about, the shorter the better, and stick one in the ground next to you on each side. give yourself a little more room between you and the one on you right. Then swing and try not to hit the shafts. Its hard to do this time of year with not a lot of oppurtunities to hit outside. This really helped my swing as i used to slide into the ball. once you fix it, you will pick up a lot of distance.

[fore142]

why are you trying to step through on your driver? thats only going to cause you to slide more. Sorry about double posting but i looked at you swing again, and thought about the sliding.

[ezra76]

Damn... I need some lessons. I don't think I can straighten any more of this out myself. I just don't get it... I expected to see some of my old moves corrected? I mean, I was hitting mosty slight draws and long as ever. It looks like total crap on the video and I'm amazed I'm not duck hooking or pull-slicing every shot. It's hard to believe my own eyes. Video is real wake up call.

[demon]

Originally Posted by ezra76

Damn... I need some lessons. I don't think I can straighten any more of this out myself. I just don't get it... I expected to see some of my old moves corrected? I mean, I was hitting mosty slight draws and long as ever. It looks like total crap on the video and I'm amazed I'm not duck hooking or pull-slicing every shot. It's hard to believe my own eyes. Video is real wake up call.

if you are not happy with your swing then work on one thing at a time. if that is what you want to do then work on your sliding first. try it out for a couple of weeks then look at some more video.

[ezra76]

Originally Posted by fore142

why are you trying to step through on your driver? thats only going to cause you to slide more. Sorry about double posting but i looked at you swing again, and thought about the sliding.

I hang back and get a slice, when I started finishing I was drawing it. I deleted one bad OTT low slice from the cam. Believe it or not those 3 were over 260 carry and a slight draw, the last was probably closer to 275. Every time I try to elimanate the slide and come more from the inside I sky the piss out of it. Like 180 and 200yds. high. Way too steep. If this swing didn't look like such crap, and I could repeat those 3 every time, I'd be pretty well satisfied with the results. Thank god for video.

[Augster]

Uffda.

Great vids BTW. Very clear.

The BIGGEST problem I see in the driver vids is that you get OUTSIDE your RIGHT foot with your right leg. That is an irrecoverable no no basically.

Don't let the weight get to the outside of the right foot. To do this correctly (and easily) you can "preset" your right leg. Bend the right knee in, to the left, toward the left knee. Then just keep it there. Think solid. Turn into your right leg, don't "sway" your hip outside your right foot.

Next, I think you know that backswing is WAY too long, right? Think 3/4, that should put you right at about parallel. Another check is that the underside of your right arm forms a right angle with your spine angle at the top. (down the line vid) You are in a GREAT position at the top, 90* right arm, and the left arm "pointing" at the ball, then the club goes past parallel, the right arm angle becomes obtuse, and the left arm is "pointing" almost straight down. Well "inside" the ball.

I wish it'd break down to frames so I could tell you which frame looks just perfect. It IS there. Then you just go a little bit too long, which breaks down your left elbow a bit, and your left wrist as you go well past parallel.

Lastly, in the driver shot from 45*, it looks like your right hand is actually UNDER. Or way too strong. I'm sure this is due to compensation for the above mentioned problems.

I hope this helps. Just "think 3/4" with your driver. Make sure you go at it through impact just as hard though. This isn't a 3/4 shot like with a wedge where you want it to go a specific distance. The 3/4 is only for how far back you are taking it.

[ezra76]

These 2 Augster? Everything in between may be a mess but these 2 look pretty good.

top1.jpgfinish1.jpg

[warbirdlover]

Man, you swing HARD! I think you'd gain a little more control by backing off a little. Then I can't see the ball flight and I'm not that good so probably ignore this. (You also move your head around alot)

[ezra76]

Originally Posted by warbirdlover

Man, you swing HARD! I think you'd gain a little more control by backing off a little. Then I can't see the ball flight and I'm not that good so probably ignore this. (You also move your head around alot)

Huh, usually I see my head stays near perfect, that's my saving grace for actually hitting the center of the face with this mess. I'll look for that in the frames. Now you know why I like the high bendpoint, stiff tip, heavier weight shafts. I put a little bit of a hard transition on a shaft. A "smooth swinger" I am not...

[Augster]

Ez,

Yeah that position on the left is just about perfect. That's the frame.

You have a GREAT 90* angle with your right armpit/spine. The left wrist is almost flat and the line extended from your left hand, through your left arm down is pointing right at the ball. Most all pros will be in this exact position at the top.

The only problem is, this isn't your top.

If you let it run, the next move is the OTT where the angle of the right armpit/spine goes over 90*, and the left arm line goes almost vertical. The left wrist also breaks down from what I can tell.

If you could make that frame your "top", it'd just be a matter of bringing your right elbow down to your side and "pinning" the back of the right elbow against the front of your right hip-bone. In front of your body, in line with your leg. i.e., taking down on the inside instead of going OTT outside.

I think you posted that Jim McClean drill video where he "practices" just that move from the top, to the club parallel to the ground on the downswing. Over and over. That drill is GREAT for ingraining that inside move.

As long as you have the camera out, you could tape yourself doing that move at home. Making sure to get into the position you see in the left photo at the top, then moving to the "McClean drill" to get to 1/2 way down. If you do tape the drill, just make sure your "left arm line" never goes more vertical than pointing at the ball. (i.e. OTT)

Thanks for getting that frame for reference.