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Old 06-27-2008, 08:00 AM
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Flying with a gun is not as hard as people think it is, the only issue is when you run into people that dont understand their own rules about checking a weapon. Then you have to talk to managers on up the line untill you finally get someone who does know what theyre talking about adn by that time you have probably missed your flight and the next flight that will get you where you want to go is leaving tomorrow afternoon AFTER the wedding you were supposed to be at.....
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No, thank goodness. Do you pack your gun in your luggage every time? How has that been working out with the security issues?
I don't normally fly but as someone else said, it's not that hard to fly with a gun.
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Ive seen soldiers at the airport pick up their guns in the luggage carousel. THey are in a case, but its a gun shaped case, so its easy to figure out whats inside.

I wouldnt mind tougher gun laws to prevent all criminals and the mentally ill from having guns...maybe a national database or something...
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I wouldnt mind tougher gun laws to prevent all criminals and the mentally ill from having guns...maybe a national database or something...

The laws to keep guns out of the hands of felons and mentally ill are already in place.

Laws do not stop criminals, hence the label "criminals". So are more laws going to stop criminals?
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The laws to keep guns out of the hands of felons and mentally ill are already in place.

Laws do not stop criminals, hence the label "criminals". So are more laws going to stop criminals?
Not more laws - better exchange of information.

I 'mostly' agree with you. However, the Virginia Tech incident is a clear example of how a criminal was able to acquire a gun because the information that would have prevented it was not available to the dealer that sold him the gun.

I am in favor of a national database that shares information that would prevent someone who shouldn't have a gun from acquiring one, but only if that database does not intrude on the privacy of anyone who is legally permitted to acquire them.

He had been judged mentally unstable, and thus met the definition of someone that should have been denied the purchase. That info wasn't available, and he lied about it on the application (as criminals will.)

It is debatable whether he would have found some other method to get a gun if he had been denied the one he did purchase. But, like any form of security, we're talking about one more layer.
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Not more laws - better exchange of information.

I 'mostly' agree with you. However, the Virginia Tech incident is a clear example of how a criminal was able to acquire a gun because the information that would have prevented it was not available to the dealer that sold him the gun.

I am in favor of a national database that shares information that would prevent someone who shouldn't have a gun from acquiring one, but only if that database does not intrude on the privacy of anyone who is legally permitted to acquire them.

He had been judged mentally unstable, and thus met the definition of someone that should have been denied the purchase. That info wasn't available, and he lied about it on the application (as criminals will.)

It is debatable whether he would have found some other method to get a gun if he had been denied the one he did purchase. But, like any form of security, we're talking about one more layer.

You'll never be able to control nut cases from aquiring guns without limiting their access and ease. "Normal" people make bad judgements. Happens all them time. Why have them make those decisions with a gun?

Simple as that.

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You'll never be able to control nut cases from aquiring guns without limiting their access and ease. "Normal" people make bad judgements. Happens all them time. Why have them make those decisions with a gun?

Simple as that.

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Why have them make them with a 3000 lb vehicle? Should we ban cars and trucks too? There are more people killed in vehicle accidents than killed by weapons(even if you include suicides which is over half of the deaths by firearms BTW) yet we let 15 year olds pilot vehicles that will travel at very high rates of speed...


Eracer...i totally agree with you. I just dont like national databases(especially if the government has their hands in it). Too easy for someone to start rounding people up because of it...basically like branding as jews used by the nazi's..with modern technology...and we all know what happend there.
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"Normal" people make bad judgements. Happens all them time. Why have them make those decisions with a gun?

Simple as that.

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OK, so what else do you want to control so "normal" people won't hurt themselves or someone else? Knives? Baseball bats? French fries?

Edit to add: And who decides what is controlled?
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