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Old 06-26-2008, 10:49 AM
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Supreme Court Makes The Judgement!!!

Americans have the right to own weapons for self defense and hunting
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Old 06-26-2008, 11:23 AM
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I'm not at all saying it's bad, but it's going to be interesting to see what the ramifications of this ruling will be in the near future.
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Fine, I have zero issues with that.

HOWEVER, homeowners are now 100% responsible for the actions of said weapons. Therein lies the choice - own the handgun and potentially kill/injure someone accidently or not and go to jail, or don't. It's your choice.

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How were homeowners not 100% responsible for their firearms before this?
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I think Rock would like to see "criminal negligence" that results in the death of someone, i.e. a child, become murder.

As soon as they make drunk-driving related killings a murder charge, I'll support this decision. But I have a much more vivid hatred for "accidental" killings due to drunk driving than I do "accidental killings" because a box fell out of the closet when little Jimmy (or Thomas) was looking for something on the top shelf.

Accidents happen with anything. Jimmy could be killed by an iron falling out of the closet too. Certainly a gun is MORE dangerous, and greater precautions must be taken. But murder is a crime that signifies the INTENT to end someone's life. Criminally negligent homocide, perhaps, should just carry a greater weight in court.
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gun owners should be responsible for there guns. thats why all mine are locked up except for one 12ga thats put out of reach but ready for an intruder.
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I think Rock would like to see "criminal negligence" that results in the death of someone, i.e. a child, become murder.

As soon as they make drunk-driving related killings a murder charge, I'll support this decision. But I have a much more vivid hatred for "accidental" killings due to drunk driving than I do "accidental killings" because a box fell out of the closet when little Jimmy (or Thomas) was looking for something on the top shelf.

Accidents happen with anything. Jimmy could be killed by an iron falling out of the closet too. Certainly a gun is MORE dangerous, and greater precautions must be taken. But murder is a crime that signifies the INTENT to end someone's life. Criminally negligent homocide, perhaps, should just carry a greater weight in court.
I guess I'm just curious as to how you defend your home with a trigger lock on the handgun that's stored in a locked cabinet away from children and theives.

Do you barter with the guy?

What a ridiculous ruling.

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I guess I'm just curious as to how you defend your home with a trigger lock on the handgun that's stored in a locked cabinet away from children and theives.

Do you barter with the guy?

What a ridiculous ruling.

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Trigger locks are a horrendous idea.

I don't have a big problem with a gun safe, as long as it provides security and allows easy access. This one is good. I can open it in the middle of the night, without fumbling for keys. I just need to be sober enough to remember the combination, which is probably a real good thing...

For all the defending of gun rights that I do, I also acknowledge that they are potentially dangerous. Gun accidents take more lives that they save - that's an uncomfortable fact. But those accidents can be prevented through education, training, and a safety-first mindset. I pray I never have to shoot someone. I pray even more that I never point my gun at anything while drunk.
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And here I thought you were making a post about the ruling that raping a child cannot be considered a capital offense. That's a great relief for me, knowing I can't be executed the next time I rape a child.........
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Try it with my kid...i would be more than willing to die at the hands of the state than let the attacker of my child live to see another day or another child
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And here I thought you were making a post about the ruling that raping a child cannot be considered a capital offense. That's a great relief for me, knowing I can't be executed the next time I rape a child.........
Only if your giant penis causes so much internal damage that you kill them.
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I don't believe in it at all, just my opinion. There are way too many things that can go wrong, for it to be considered right. It's just allowing more and more guns to find their way onto the street, into the hands of the wrong people.
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I am a Canadian who owns 9 guns, including one hand gun. My father has guns, my uncles, my father in law. None of us has ever killed anyone, either intentionally or accidentally. Blaming guns for the stupidity of people is one of the reasons our society is what it is. Taking responsibility seems to be something no one wants to do, or force anyone else to do. In Canada we have to register our guns, including rifles, because that will make us safer. I can only imagine how many criminals rushed to their local registrars office with their $100 in hand. Oh yeah, did I mention it cost $100 to do this?

Gun laws are a joke in both our countries. Innocent law abiding citizens are punished for the deeds of criminals. Criminals who are never affected by the law because they don't abide by them anyways. Utterly ridiculous imo.
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I don't believe in it at all, just my opinion. There are way too many things that can go wrong, for it to be considered right. It's just allowing more and more guns to find their way onto the street, into the hands of the wrong people.
OK, lets say theives and thugs get the idea that it will be easier to steal guns...so they start breaking into houses to steal guns...lets say a low number 50% of them get shot and killed by the homeowner who can now legally keep the weapon in a place close enough to defend himself and another 25% get put in jail for theft of a weapon...only 25% of attempts are making it onto the street...and hopefully when they decide to use that weapon either 1, they kill another thug and get another one off the street OR the person they try to victimize shoots them...

really, all i see this doing si getting more adn more theives and thugs off the street...bad thing? i think not.
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