Bye Bye <--Pro V1--> - Shot Talk

**Sandpiper3** · iTrader: (0) #1 (**permalink**) 01-20-2008, 11:43 PM

The IP Golf Guy - The Golf Patent Lawyer (Golf Inventions, Patents, Litigation, Trademarks): Callaway Seeks Permanent Injunctionâ€¦ Is There A Risk That Titleist ProV1â€™s Will No Longer Be Available?

Came across this on WRX. Sounds interesting and sounds like there may actually be merit to the case

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I don't wana play Callaway balls, I like my ProV1x's.

Bignose · iTrader: (0) #2 (**permalink**) 01-21-2008, 12:19 AM

I doubt it will come to complete disappearance -- you know how lawyers always ask really, really high. I mean, look at this recent example Katrina victim sues U.S. for $3 quadrillion - U.S. business - MSNBC.com -- a lawsuit seeking $3 quadrillion dollars in suffering (the exact number is $3,014,170,389,176,410).

But, I wouldn't be surprised if Titleist isn't forced to pay Callaway like $1 or $2 maybe even $3 or $4 a ball for every single ProV1 or ProV1x sold. And, if they want to keep selling the balls, they'd have to keep paying.

**Sandpiper3** · iTrader: (0) #3 (**permalink**) 01-21-2008, 01:12 AM

The thing im worried about is that Titleist is the only one ahead of Callaway for balls played, Callaway probly has the aim to destroy their competition in this one, as they do not need the money obv by the amount theyre throwing at their pros.

lamebums · iTrader: (0) #4 (**permalink**) 01-21-2008, 02:51 AM

Great. Pay Callaway $2 or 3 for each Pro V1? Just great. Golf balls are already hideously expensive.

**Clugnut** · iTrader: (3) #5 (**permalink**) 01-21-2008, 06:49 AM

For some reason, I find this whole thing humorous. Didn't they ban the Rule 35, anyway?

**Eracer** · iTrader: (7) #6 (**permalink**) 01-21-2008, 07:02 AM

Interesting, since it appears that Callaway has already proven infringement.

ualtim · iTrader: (0) #7 (**permalink**) 01-21-2008, 07:24 AM

It will be interesting to see what the courts come up with as a final resolution. Achusnet is guilty, and they should have to pay. The question is, how much? With the Pro V1 being the top selling ball on the planet, I believe Callaway (Top Flite) should be properly compensated. If it means Titleist loses all its profits made on the ball since inception, so be it. If it means Titleist can no longer produce the balls, so be it.

Maybe Titleist will be able to come up with a ball design on its own the next time around and not steal someone else's ideas. If the thought of playing another ball that does not say Titleist on it bothers you, it shouldn't. You have been playing an overpriced re-labeled Strata for years now.

**LyleG** · iTrader: (1) #8 (**permalink**) 01-21-2008, 09:03 AM

A loss of this magnitude could very well send Titleist to the grave. You would here a news story of a drunken man running down the main street in Regina screaming "yeee haw" at the top of his lungs if this happens.

**niblick** · iTrader: (0) #9 (**permalink**) 01-21-2008, 09:37 AM

Meh, I like Bridgestones better anyway.

ualtim · iTrader: (0) #10 (**permalink**) 01-21-2008, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by LyleG

A loss of this magnitude could very well send Titleist to the grave. You would here a news story of a drunken man running down the main street in Regina screaming "yeee haw" at the top of his lungs if this happens.

I would love to see the jaw drop when after the Titleist fall, Scotty shifts gears and starts putting the Callaway/Odyssey name on his putters.

Rockford35 · iTrader: (5) #11 (**permalink**) 01-21-2008, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by LyleG

A loss of this magnitude could very well send Titleist to the grave. You would here a news story of a drunken man running down the main street in Regina screaming "yeee haw" at the top of his lungs if this happens.

I might actually rent a horse for that event.

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Originally Posted by ualtim

I would love to see the jaw drop when after the Titleist fall, Scotty shifts gears and starts putting the Callaway/Odyssey name on his putters.

Doesn't Scotty already copy Callaway/Odyssey designs? He's got Ping's number already....

R35

Topflite_D2 · iTrader: (2) #12 (**permalink**) 01-21-2008, 10:34 AM

I'm glad TM makes golfballs now. Those will probably be the ball of choice for me. No helping Callaway buy buying their equimpment. Thats it lets not buy anything Callaway. haha

Rockford35 · iTrader: (5) #13 (**permalink**) 01-21-2008, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Topflite_D2

I'm glad TM makes golfballs now. Those will probably be the ball of choice for me. No helping Callaway buy buying their equimpment. Thats it lets not buy anything Callaway. haha

You know that Callaway owns Top Flite, right?

R35