Tiger: Out for 4 to 6 weeks

[LottaBalata]

He's having artheroscopic (sp?) surgery on his knee. . .I didn't hear which. But he'll be out 4 to 6 weeks.

I guess he already had it scheduled for right after The Masters. That way, he could be ready in June for The Open.

He said it didn't effect his play at Augusta, but he seemed "off" to me. JMO

[JasonMacIsaac]

AFP: Tiger Woods undergoes knee surgery

Thats what the modern swing will do to you.

[limpalong]

Originally Posted by JasonMacIsaac

AFP: Tiger Woods undergoes knee surgery

Thats what the modern swing will do to you.

From early in his career, I've questioned how long his body would hold up. There are few on tour that seem to swing with the "gusto" that TW does. I understand TW has kept on an intensive conditioning regimine. Yet, at my old age, every time I see him swing hard... especially with driver off the tee... something in MY body hurts!!! It will be interesting to see what's next after the knee... another knee... back... elbow... shoulder...

[Adam Pettman]

Originally Posted by JasonMacIsaac

AFP: Tiger Woods undergoes knee surgery

Thats what the modern swing will do to you.

Theres no mention that the surgery is linked with the way he swings a golf club, I know people that have had surgery that have never touched a golf club.

[Eracer]

I have a torn ACL in my left knee, and a slight meniscus tear in my right. I'm certainly no Tiger, but the orthopedic surgeon who evaluated my injury 15 years ago told me that golf shouldn't be a problem. And it hasn't been. I can't bowl, ski, play tennis, basketball, etc. But golf presents no problematic loads to the knee, and I never have any knee pain from playing golf.

[JasonMacIsaac]

Originally Posted by Adam Pettman

Theres no mention that the surgery is linked with the way he swings a golf club, I know people that have had surgery that have never touched a golf club.

I dont even know how to respond to that, it take a simple amount of comon sense to understand he changed his swing to get rounder in order to reduce the stress of his body and the left knee in general. His swing basicly screws him into the ground and he fires through the ball like no other on tour. Keeping that left foot planted will cause problems with your left knee at some point.

[JasonMacIsaac]

Originally Posted by Eracer

I have a torn ACL in my left knee, and a slight meniscus tear in my right. I'm certainly no Tiger, but the orthopedic surgeon who evaluated my injury 15 years ago told me that golf shouldn't be a problem. And it hasn't been. I can't bowl, ski, play tennis, basketball, etc. But golf presents no problematic loads to the knee, and I never have any knee pain from playing golf.

You probably swing the club with a clubspeed around 100 or under with little torque or coil at all. I also doubt your left foot is planted throughout the backswing putting a lot of stress on that knee.

[Eracer]

Originally Posted by JasonMacIsaac

You probably swing the club with a clubspeed around 100 or under with little torque or coil at all. I also doubt your left foot is planted throughout the backswing putting a lot of stress on that knee.

When I tore my ACL, and was deciding whether to have it repaired, I asked the doctor one thing: "Would I be able to play golf without it?" I was quite surprised when the doctor told me that the golf swing would not be a problem. I thought, as you do, that the rotational force applied to the left knee would shred my cartilage, without the stabilizing influence of the ACL. In fact, he explained the the knee is quite resistant to damage from purely rotational stresses, and it is only when the knee is subjected to vertical loading that it becomes vulnerable to injury from torque.

I agree with you on one thing. I am not Tiger Woods, and if I exercised and practiced as much as he does, I would put stresses on my joints that would probably lead to injury. On the other hand, his musculature is so much better than mine that he has joint support that I do not have, so my joints are subject to wear and tear at much lower levels of stress.

[SiberianDVM]

Well, I am a surgeon (of sorts), I have done many knee surgeries (on dogs), I have a torn ACL and cartilage damage in my left knee, have had arthroscopic surgery on it once, and I play golf.

I'm here to tell you that my puny 95 mph driver swing does put stress on that bad knee. After hitting a bucket of balls, I limp. And if I don't wear an elastic brace on it while I'm hitting, it swells up. And hurts.

Eldricks' swing has the potential to permanently destroy his left knee by the time he's 40.

Luckily, he can afford the best surgery and care, including a good custom made knee brace. And after the knee is shot to hell, he can afford a knee replacement.

Some people have said that major league fist pump he did near the end of last year, where he stumbled and limped for a while may have done the damage. Certainly, a "mis-step", where all your weight is thrust upon a bad knee that is not properly braced can exacerbate a pervious injury.

[Eracer]

Originally Posted by SiberianDVM

Well, I am a surgeon (of sorts), I have done many knee surgeries (on dogs), I have a torn ACL and cartilage damage in my left knee, have had arthroscopic surgery on it once, and I play golf.

I'm here to tell you that my puny 95 mph driver swing does put stress on that bad knee. After hitting a bucket of balls, I limp. And if I don't wear an elastic brace on it while I'm hitting, it swells up. And hurts.

Eldricks' swing has the potential to permanently destroy his left knee by the time he's 40.

Luckily, he can afford the best surgery and care, including a good custom made knee brace. And after the knee is shot to hell, he can afford a knee replacement.

Some people have said that major league fist pump he did near the end of last year, where he stumbled and limped for a while may have done the damage. Certainly, a "mis-step", where all your weight is thrust upon a bad knee that is not properly braced can exacerbate a pervious injury.

Curious. I've walked 10 rounds up and down hills in 16 days and made a lot of swings, and never had the first hint of pain or swelling. I've played golf weekly for almost twenty years with my torn ACL, and not once have I ever had any problems during or after a round of golf.

One single attempt at rolling a bowling ball? Forget it. My knee collapses and I fear I've damaged something.

[eclark53520]

Maybe it depends on where, how bad, and how it was torn? Like if it was torn due to a 'twisting' motion or if it was torn completely versus just a little...might make a difference in whether the golf swing agrivates the injury

I am no doctor/surgeon, nore do i want to be, and i really have little knowledge about the ACL, but i figured i would throw my thoughts in

[Eracer]

Originally Posted by eclark53520

Maybe it depends on where, how bad, and how it was torn? Like if it was torn due to a 'twisting' motion or if it was torn completely versus just a little...might make a difference in whether the golf swing agrivates the injury

I am no doctor/surgeon, nore do i want to be, and i really have little knowledge about the ACL, but i figured i would throw my thoughts in

Completely torn in half. I'm sure the difference is that I make about 200 full swings per week (at most) and Tiger makes 2000. Not to mention I swing at 95mph, and he swings 130mph. As Jason pointed out, that's a lot more torque. Repetitive motion of any kind - be it the "modern swing" or the "classic swing" damages joints. I'd rather have the knee damage like Tiger than the back damage like Freddy.

[BrandonM7]

I didn't know about any previous injury, but I could tell he was hurting at Augusta. I don't think it affected his play any (especially since he said it didn't,) but you could see it when he climbed out of those bunkers. He was using his club to help him up, and his caddie even started to help him out of one.

[EDSGolf]

Imagine the nervous doctor that has to operate on Tiger. Nike reps must be in the operating room too.

[twofast2s]

well i haven't been on a PGA tour but i do have 115mph swing speed. i do feel the strain on my body b/c of golf.

i also train, try to stay flexible (yoga and stretch), and workout lightly not to bulk up so much. even than, after a round of golf, i'm sore around my back and torso since i unwind my body hard.

i can see how it also can put a stress on your knee, but i think jogging 20miles/wk does more damage onmy knee than my swing. i heard tiger runs 6miles almost every day, so it may not be the swing, but it can be golf related.