Gary Edwin-The Right Sided golf swing?

[charnockpro]

I have been reading about this guy for a while and looking at some of his videos on his site, i am still a bit dubious to its merits, over on GOLFWRX they are divided with many of them saying it has golf machine and stack and tilt elements, it seems to be very upper body reliant to me
YouTube - Gary Edwin Golf Student Swings
YouTube - GARY EDWIN GOLF SECRETS
YouTube - Golf Instruction video Gary Edwin "The Red Pill"
YouTube - Gary Edwin Golf ANGLES
YouTube - Golf Instruction video Gary Edwin
YouTube - Rodney Pampling Driver SwingVision one of his pupils
YouTube - Rodney Pampling Driver SwingVision #2
YouTube - Peter Lonard Driver
Gary Edwin Golf :: International Academies :: his personal site

He does seem to like himself a bit as well, like he has re-invented the wheel!

I do disagree that Hogan was a RSS (Right Sided Swinger) there are elements but not conclusive proof.

See what you guys think!!

[dave.]

I have watched every link you posted and there is nothing to explain what the hell he is on about. You can make a guess, he seems to be saying 'don't sway' or to put it another way, keep the weight on the left leg, or as he puts it, er, right sided players.

But I'm sorry, anyone who declares Hogan as a stack and tilt player, or a 'right sided player' knows nothing. Hogan LOADED the inside of his right knee, it was his secret, the amount of pressure he put there, he could vary it and thus control distance. This guy is slinging in Hogan vids to add gravitas to yet another swing theory. You take you pick, if it works, it works. To me I would come in way to steep and lose distance and power. How did Hogan go through so shallow if he swung like that? (he didn't is the answer, Hogan did NOT reverse pivot).

I also like the fact that some of the best players in the world are presented as left sided players, like its a bad thing, and I'm sure I saw Tiger included in this bunch:emot-ange.

Anyway, those links have left me emotionally scarred after seeing a grown man wear knee length white socks. I need to go and get therapy.

Its stack and tilt in all but name.

[charnockpro]

Thanks, i thought it was just me!! it seems like a concept like stack and tilt that will work for some and not for others.

[Eracer]

I'm confused. Was there a swing method in there somewhere?

[charnockpro]

Yeah i think his method's are as clear as mud!!, his logo is of a reverse K which i think is what he bases his teaching methods around!, as i say some will succeed others will hurt their back!

[Adam Pettman]

Yeah i think his method's are as clear as mud!!, his logo is of a reverse K which i think is what he bases his teaching methods around!, as i say some will succeed others will hurt their back!

All will hurt their back in the long run.

[TheWOAT]

I read WRX often (mostly swing section) and I think certain members there have made a solid case for Hogan being 'mostly' leftsided in his swing. If you check out the thread there called "9 to 3" you can see footage of players swinging using mostly their left side, and look fairly similar to Hogan...

How does setting up with a Reverse-K hurt your back?

[charnockpro]

i feel it may ruin your back due to the pressure created by not using your legs, i am no biomechanical genius but some of those swings look like they could get painful in later life, i know what u mean by slicefixers 9 to 3 article and 224 page thesis, very good read if not a wee bit fragmented but that guy knows his stuff alright.

[TheWOAT]

yeah the 224 pages of random posts was VERY hard to follow... but the condensed version was a decent read (60 pages I believe) and better organized... someone really had alot of time on their hands to cut 160 pages and organize it. The spelling corrections alone would have taken hours.

[dave.]

I disagree with Slicerfixer on several counts. Posting a lot doesn't mean he knows a lot, it means he posts a lot. I am not saying he is wrong, I just disagree. He argues Hogan worked on his swing all the way through his life and continued to tweak his swing, yet there is no evidence for that. I believe he will have just compensated for the natural ravages of time on his body, and of the legacy of the accident, he will not have tweaked his swing for the sake of it. Plus, he argues Hogan did not have a lateral move ,ater in his career, again, I totally disagree. Yes his hips were pure rotation, but AFTER he moved laterally, not as much as he used to, but it was there all his life

[TheWOAT]

i feel it may ruin your back due to the pressure created by not using your legs, i am no biomechanical genius but some of those swings look like they could get painful in later life, i know what u mean by slicefixers 9 to 3 article and 224 page thesis, very good read if not a wee bit fragmented but that guy knows his stuff alright.

I dont know about Edwin and his swing, but in trying out the SF 9-3 type swing on the range, when I do full swings I feel a little extra pressure on my right knee (Lefthanded)... the reverseK, at least to me, putts extra weight on the right knee... then with downswing it supports most of the body weight and add in alot of rotation on top of the knee on the follow through. Back felt good though.... I would bet that many agressive, 100% power, driver swings would ruin my knee

[twofast2s]

well when i first started getting more into swing mechanics, i thought both tiger and hogan had a hint of stack and tilt. i tried to immulate their swing, especially hogans w/ stack and tilt in mind and i just couldn't do it. video myself w/ and w/o clubs, and nothing came close.

what i realized though, is that hogan and tiger both turn w/ excellent right hip pivot, that it "seems" like reverse pivot almost. this creates proper weight shift to the right (although some say there is no weight shift in golf swing) which enables both tiger and hogan to shift their weight back to lefts side to brace and pivot (hogan's power drill comes to mind), rotating on left hip axis. once their weight is shifted to the left and braced, the sequence of unwinding becomes more powerful due to having the most tightest rotation, which is also very efficient. this is why i believe i can generate more swing speed than who are taller and stronger.

just my 2cents.