Kenny Perry

[ManchesterGolfer]

Originally Posted by APowell1990

wind and rain are a test to playing golf? So if I played in a hurricane in FL, does that make me a man? Seriously screw playing in 30 mph winds. What is the point? Of course I'll play in the rain but seriously

Playing in a hurricane is nowt at all like playing in the Open this week. A tough but fair Links course with a bit of a wind mixed with a bit of drizzle & thats real Golf. If there's no wind and rain then they can go very low at the Open like they have in the past but links courses are on the Coast so the wind is part of what makes them great. I like Woodland & Parkland courses as well, Augusta is a great track but Links courses are the Home of Golf, where it all started and deserve respect for being that, not moaning about a bit of wind. Thinking about it, Fair play to KP I'd rather him stay away than walk in off the course, I'll retract my Tosser coment for that.

[APowell1990]

so what happens if proof comes out that golf was invented by Indians in North America? Seriously spare me the home of golf stuff. Most people dont like playing golf where it's cold and windy. The Open is a great tournament but lets not act like Kenny Perry was AFRAID to play or whatever

[Stanters]

Originally Posted by APowell1990

so what happens if proof comes out that golf was invented by Indians in North America? Seriously spare me the home of golf stuff. Most people dont like playing golf where it's cold and windy. The Open is a great tournament but lets not act like Kenny Perry was AFRAID to play or whatever

He was clearly afraid, can't hack having to play non-target golf and looking like a donk. Not the first and he won't be the last.

Golf was invented by Scottish shepherds, the Native Americans (Indians are the aboriganal people of India btw and not North America) were too busy playing Lacrosse and fighting vikings to get 18 holes in. Plus they couldn't get on at Augusta. So I guess that makes Scotland the home of golf whatever you might think.

[ManchesterGolfer]

Originally Posted by APowell1990

so what happens if proof comes out that golf was invented by Indians in North America? Seriously spare me the home of golf stuff. Most people dont like playing golf where it's cold and windy. The Open is a great tournament but lets not act like Kenny Perry was AFRAID to play or whatever

Then you'll be looking at another load of Bullshit!!! St.Andrews IS the Home of Golf, Links Courses are where this great game started and as for most people not liking to play golf where it's cold and windy, it's actually Summer time over here and WE don't know what the weather will be like from one week to the next, so how do you square that circle? Have you got a very long range met office which tells the weather better for the UK then the UK met office? Also if you ever manage to brave up enough courage to venture over to these Freezing waste lands to visit St.Andrews you'd probably think you were still in the US as 75% of the visitors there EACH day are from the your side of the Pond.

As for Perry he said himself that his game isn't suited to links golf or whatever!!!

[ManchesterGolfer]

Originally Posted by Stanters

He was clearly afraid, can't hack having to play non-target golf and looking like a donk. Not the first and he won't be the last.

Golf was invented by Scottish shepherds, the Native Americans (Indians are the aboriganal people of India btw and not North America) were too busy playing Lacrosse and fighting vikings to get 18 holes in. Plus they couldn't get on at Augusta. So I guess that makes Scotland the home of golf whatever you might think.

LOL Good points, well put!!!

EDIT;- this is why I wasn't gonna post in this Thread again arguing with some HS mentality who probably has never seen an atlas or globe and History lesson go back 100 years or so!

[cabinessence]

You seem to be taking it personally that he's not making the trip.

[APowell1990]

I'm pretty sure Kenny Perry would at the very least be in contention in the Open if he came. Stop making stupid statements because the man understands he has nothing to prove and knows his career is basically all for the Ryder Cup this year in his home state

[Wi-Golfer]

Not quite sure why the ill will towards Kenny for not going to the British Open? He made his choice well known quite some time ago & has stuck to that choice, I applaud him for that. I wish Favre was half as honorable when it comes to his decisions.

[Clugnut]

Originally Posted by Stanters

Golf was invented by Scottish shepherds

Tell the Chinese that.

Originally Posted by cabinessence

You seem to be taking it personally that he's not making the trip.

Seems that way. At first it was about not seeing the "hottest golfer on the planet", and now he's afraid because he'll suck it up. Which is it? MG, Americans have nothing against the Open championship, it's just a different style then we play because we have different weather. Not better, just different. And Americans haven't fair too poorly at the Open. 9 for 11 from 95-05, Jack won a couple, Hogan, Palmer. Cripes, Watson won 5, and I think 3 or 4 Senior Open's.

Do I need to come over there and settle this? (He says as a big man, knowing full well the first poor bounce into the gorse would have him sobbing like a little girl.)

[BigJim13]

Originally Posted by dave.

Yep, I have no problem with Kenny Perry, he can do what he wants. Rich Beem and Sandy Lyle walking off though is disgraceful

I agree, Beem was on his way to shoot 90 and calls it a day. The real crappy part is that since they started and then withdrew, an alternate can't even get in. If your going to travel that far to play in one of the greatest tournaments, why not play it all?

[Stanters]

From Wiipedia

"Golf is a very old game of which the exact origins are unclear. The origin of golf is open to debate as to being Chinese, Dutch^[3] or Scottish. However, the most accepted golf history theory is that this sport originated from Scotland in the 1100s.^[4]
A game somewhat similar to golf was first mentioned in Dōngxuān Records (Chinese: 東軒錄), a Chinese book of 11th Century. It was also mentioned on February 26, 1297 in the Netherlands in a city called Loenen aan de Vecht. Here the Dutch played a game with a stick and leather ball. Whoever hit the ball into a target several hundreds of meters away the most number of times, won."

I really don't have time to tell all the Chinese. Couldn't we go for a smaller nation and somewhere bit hotter? If you lke I'll tell all the Bajans.

It's not a personal thing abut Perry at all, it doesn't bother me if he plays or not but it's not too hard to work out why he didn't. I can't see his jerky swing holding up too well in that wind so I'm not sure he'd have been in contention. How that equates to all Americans being poor links players I don't know, I didn't even go near that line of argument as it is blatantly absurd.

I was only defending the heritage of the game and the beauty of links golf in the face of a clumsy and distinctly charmless attack. I mean "Indians" for heaven's sake....why not go the whole hog and call them Redskins...or Savages?

I'm sure Kenny will do great in The Ryder Cup.

[Clugnut]

Originally Posted by Stanters

From Wiipedia

"Golf is a very old game of which the exact origins are unclear. The origin of golf is open to debate as to being Chinese, Dutch^[3] or Scottish. However, the most accepted golf history theory is that this sport originated from Scotland in the 1100s.^[4]
A game somewhat similar to golf was first mentioned in Dōngxuān Records (Chinese: 東軒錄), a Chinese book of 11th Century. It was also mentioned on February 26, 1297 in the Netherlands in a city called Loenen aan de Vecht. Here the Dutch played a game with a stick and leather ball. Whoever hit the ball into a target several hundreds of meters away the most number of times, won."

I really don't have time to tell all the Chinese. Couldn't we go for a smaller nation and somewhere bit hotter? If you lke I'll tell all the Bajans.

It's not a personal thing abut Perry at all, it doesn't bother me if he plays or not but it's not too hard to work out why he didn't. I can't see his jerky swing holding up too well in that wind so I'm not sure he'd have been in contention. How that equates to all Americans being poor links players I don't know, I didn't even go near that line of argument as it is blatantly absurd.

I was only defending the heritage of the game and the beauty of links golf in the face of a clumsy and distinctly charmless attack. I mean "Indians" for heaven's sake....why not go the whole hog and call them Redskins...or Savages?

I'm sure Kenny will do great in The Ryder Cup.

Good enough. But, he has a great ballflight for the first tee today. A hard draw into that wind.


I love the links game, but playing in a wind that is blowing so hard that it rolls balls in the fairway is less a test of golf, and more a test of who can remain standing after multiple shots to the nuts.


EDIT: BTW, "Indians" is an accepted term for Native Americans in the US. It really doesn't have a negative connotation, as it just stuck from when Columbus thought he made it to India on his trip around the world.

[Stanters]

It's borderline out there now for sure.

Our summer stopped in mid June I think, it has been windy for weeks.

I didn't want to get into a US vs UK type thing - it's not my thing, I take people as they are not from where they come from and I love US Opens, for me the 2 Opens are the premier events in world golf by some way.

I think we may have an American winner this year - someone with a loopy swing is going along sweetly but as I type this Harringon has just holed a chip - it's anyone's right now in these conditions, not so much who makes the birdies but who keeps the disasters at bay which sadly seems to rule out Duval and Van der Velde.

Indians: was a bit tongue in cheek - I wasn't being 100% serious.

I played today about 5 miles inland and the wind was brutal but 5 miles and 50 yards is a world apart, anyone who shoots 74 or under has had a good day.

[Fourputt]

Originally Posted by Stanters

I was only defending the heritage of the game and the beauty of links golf in the face of a clumsy and distinctly charmless attack. I mean "Indians" for heaven's sake....why not go the whole hog and call them Redskins...or Savages?

I'm sure Kenny will do great in The Ryder Cup.

They call themselves "American Indians".... Here in Denver we have the "Indian Market", an annual Arts and Crafts Exposition by native Americans. Nothing wrong or politically incorrect about the term.

[Clugnut]

Originally Posted by Stanters

I didn't want to get into a US vs UK type thing - it's not my thing, I take people as they are not from where they come from and I love US Opens, for me the 2 Opens are the premier events in world golf by some way.

I think we may have an American winner this year - someone with a loopy swing is going along sweetly but as I type this Harringon has just holed a chip - it's anyone's right now in these conditions, not so much who makes the birdies but who keeps the disasters at bay which sadly seems to rule out Duval and Van der Velde.

Indians: was a bit tongue in cheek - I wasn't being 100% serious.

I played today about 5 miles inland and the wind was brutal but 5 miles and 50 yards is a world apart, anyone who shoots 74 or under has had a good day.

Arguing superior nations or types of golf is truly an exercise in futility.

As for a winner, there seems to be an unflappable Korean that is looking real good. Although, ruling out a great wind player like Harrington or Furyk would be stupid.

Ben Curtis shot a 70 today at Birkdale, but the guy is the luckiest links golfer in history. Shanked a shot today that bounced off a nob and into the hole. Truly an American who likes links. I remember him snap hooking a second shot when he won, and the SOB just bounced and bobbled around the rollie-pollies until it it was a kick in for eagle.