LPGA to require players to speak English...

[David Hillman]

Originally Posted by Eracer

Good question. Thing is, there is no law against that. Just like there's no law against that club in Georgia prohibiting women from becoming members.

You're right, there is no law against a Tour deciding, more or less on a whim, who may or may not participate. If there were, there'd be a slam-dunk lawsuit filed yesterday by a couple hundred Nationwide Tour ( total purse, ~$20M ) guys against the LPGA ( total purse, ~$90M ), and for that matter, the Senior Tour ( ~$55M total purse ).

[TheWOAT]

Originally Posted by Eracer

It's interesting that the author of the article mentions that courts have upheld company mandated english fluency, but only for two reasons:

1. Safety (air traffic control)
2. Efficiency (telphone customer service)

Then goes on to flatly state that safety would be a non-issue in the LPGA. I suppose it's a fine line, but if a player can't yell "fore!" there could be a safety issue. Sure, other people (like her caddie) could yell it, but isn't it the player's responsibility?

Then the LPGA's english test would be limited to knowing the word "Fore" and when to use it. Really, there are no safety concerns.

I dont get why the LPGA made this announcement. They should have just sent a memo out to players giving them a few years to learn English, then readdress the issue at that time.. kept it low key... It all seems kinda drastic.

[xamilo]

If the rule passes, would I be allowed to play being a mute woman?

[Harry Longshanks]

Originally Posted by xamilo

If the rule passes, would I be allowed to play being a mute woman?

You're a mute woman?

I guess it would be fine as long as you are unable to speak English. Now if you were unable to speak Korean, there might be a problem.

[ezra76]

Originally Posted by Harry Longshanks

You're a mute woman?

I guess it would be fine as long as you are unable to speak English. Now if you were unable to speak Korean, there might be a problem.

What if you were a mute woman who used sign language but it was Korean sign language?

Imagine that, a hot mute chick who not only loves but kicks a$$ at golf. Dream girl.

[rubber314chicken]

Originally Posted by David Hillman

Why, then, is it legal for the LPGA to discriminate on the basis of gender?

because there is a league for those who are not allowed in- men. its called the PGA, and for old men, the senior tour. as long as there is a group for everyone to be in (should they have the ability) then I see nothing wrong.

[Harry Longshanks]

Originally Posted by rubber314chicken

because there is a league for those who are not allowed in- men. its called the PGA, and for old men, the senior tour. as long as there is a group for everyone to be in (should they have the ability) then I see nothing wrong.

So, you are saying "separate but equal" is okay with you?

[ezra76]

Originally Posted by rubber314chicken

because there is a league for those who are not allowed in- men. its called the PGA, and for old men, the senior tour. as long as there is a group for everyone to be in (should they have the ability) then I see nothing wrong.

... it's called the Asian Tour.

http://www.lagt.org/

Take a look at the 07 major winners on that tour. How do you think they'd feel about having to speak Chinese and/or Korean to be able to play?

[Harry Longshanks]

Originally Posted by ezra76

... it's called the Asian Tour.

Ladies Asian Golf Tour

Take a look at the 07 major winners on that tour. How do you think they'd feel about having to speak Chinese and/or Korean to be able to play?

Very good point!

It's the "diplomatic immunity" argument: The reason we have it is not because we want to protect guilty foreign officials on U.S. soil from prosecution in U.S. Courts. We have it because we want our diplomats on foreign soil to be protected from persecution in foreign courts.

Or, if the LAGT adopts a similar policy, it might be referred to as the "neener-neener-neener" argument.

[rubber314chicken]

Originally Posted by Harry Longshanks

So, you are saying "separate but equal" is okay with you?

in this case, yes. how do you think women would feel if they had to compete with tiger? Men in sports are better in some, and worse (namely some parts of gymnastics) then women. Wouldn't it make sense to have people put into categories based on if they are women, men, or old to make it a competition of skill among those with the equal opportunities?

[Victory]

someone will be looking for a new job.--- and the lawsuits will start rolling in.. wild the LPGA rolled this out. does not help them - at all.

[Adam Pettman]

Originally Posted by JEFF4i

A touch extreme Adam. In this case I'm sure that the LPGA would allow for signing, since being mute is a disability, being Korean isn't.

Some would argue that neither could speak English, no matter what the reason.

[Irish]

Originally Posted by ezra76

What if you were a mute woman who used sign language but it was Korean sign language?

Imagine that, a hot mute chick who not only loves but kicks a$$ at golf. Dream girl.

she's also have to ability to suck a golf ball through a garden hose, have a head the shape of a table and enjoy spending time on her knees

[JEFF4i]

Originally Posted by Adam Pettman

Some would argue that neither could speak English, no matter what the reason.

And those some would be missing a distinction the size of the Grand Canyon.

[slank & slope]

Whats with all the bleeding hearts on here. They have the right to exclude anyone they want. Its their dime.