Fade/Draw

[15andlife]

Alright guys i've been practicing alot lately on my irons all kinds long mid and short and I have got them down to a tee (no pun intended) even with backspin I can now stick almost every shot within 10ft. from 150yds and less. So I just want to know how to put draw or fade onto the ball. Mainly because im not a long hitter (my average drive is 250) so alot of times i get stuck on the wrong side of a dog leg on a par 4 or par 5 so I went to learn to bend the ball around those a little. So if you have any tips or anything that helped you it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

[ezra76]

I cannot help you with a draw but I would put my fade up against anyones and I mean anyone. Set up with your stance open along the path you wish for the ball to start on. Then open the clubface to where you want the ball to end up. You have now set up for an out to in swing path. I got a GIR from 215 in the right rough behind a tree today. Now I will wait to see how to hit a draw, because doing the opposite of this causes me to pull hook.

[15andlife]

Cool thanks I will try that when I go to the range and now I just some hints on draw. Thanks

[15andlife]

Alright I think I got the draw I didn't try it but I read and thought i wouldn't be greedy and would share it with all of you. So okay I will try to make this not confusing but it'll be hard. Okay first start off with the club face square to the target as well as your feet and shoulders. Then move your feet and shoulders so that they are alligned just right of the target but keep the clubface square. Now take your left hand (if you golf right handed) and turn it over to the right so that you can see one more knuckle on your left hand which loosens the grip with your left hand but keep it that way. Now when you swing swing in the same plane as your feet which gives you an outside in swing.

[ezra76]

Originally Posted by 15andlife

Alright I think I got the draw I didn't try it but I read and thought i wouldn't be greedy and would share it with all of you. So okay I will try to make this not confusing but it'll be hard. Okay first start off with the club face square to the target as well as your feet and shoulders. Then move your feet and shoulders so that they are alligned just right of the target but keep the clubface square. Now take your left hand (if you golf right handed) and turn it over to the right so that you can see one more knuckle on your left hand which loosens the grip with your left hand but keep it that way. Now when you swing swing in the same plane as your feet which gives you an outside in swing.

Good luck. I've been trying to get that one down for over a year.

[Rockford35]

Originally Posted by 15andlife

Alright I think I got the draw I didn't try it but I read and thought i wouldn't be greedy and would share it with all of you. So okay I will try to make this not confusing but it'll be hard. Okay first start off with the club face square to the target as well as your feet and shoulders. Then move your feet and shoulders so that they are alligned just right of the target but keep the clubface square. Now take your left hand (if you golf right handed) and turn it over to the right so that you can see one more knuckle on your left hand which loosens the grip with your left hand but keep it that way. Now when you swing swing in the same plane as your feet which gives you an outside in swing.

You're basically turning your hands over. Tough to control.

If you want to hit a subtle draw and have it controllable, get your outside-to-in swing down. Start the clubhead on the outside path on the backswing and bring it insideon your downswing. This promotes counterclockwise spin on the ball. Your method is more of a trap, where your hands do most of the work. That leads to pulls.

I can hit all my irons with a 3 yard draw almost on demand. Now If I could just get that distance control nailed, I'd be a millionaire.

Good luck,

R35

[dave.]

15% of all shots to 150 on the PGA tour are outside 20 ft,so you are better than a PGA player.However,to help you on tour,I have some advice.

I have been working on a shot that WILL NOT GO LEFT.Its a crucial shot off the tee,and also once the skill is acquired you can hit fades with your irons,which is also a crucial shot.

I started doing what everyone does,open stance,across the ball,punch it in,everything was out of a text book and all the adjustments were relatively big.No consistency at all.I then went to a pro for help,this was quite recently.Firstly,Brad Faxon fades the ball just by THINKING about it,no adjustments made,he mentally thinks it and the adjustments are made subconciously.All my pro said was doing nothing different,full release of the body and hands,but have a SENSATION of hitting with the left hand.Needless to say I can now aim for trouble down the left and fade it.It works for me.It also helps by playing very traditional blades,you only need to give the left of the ball a hard stare and it fades.

To draw it,I just release normally because I naturally draw it anyway.But the controlled fade,where teh ball is compressed hard,but you fully committ yourself to the shot,is the most valuable shot I can learn,according to my good friend,the pro.

Moral of the story is to not make huge adjusments,you obviously have talent so experiment with learning to hold off the release by hitting with the left hand,and a full release,do nothing else,and see what happens.

[GregInOz]

Originally Posted by dave.

Brad Faxon fades the ball just by THINKING about it,no adjustments made,he mentally thinks it and the adjustments are made subconciously.

I can do this too. "whatever you do, don't fade it into the water on the right". Bam! Its there. Tour here I come.

When I get adventurous and want to work the ball, I simply close my stance for a draw, open it for a fade, then square the clubface to the target and try to make a normal swing. I am not a great golfer so my success rate is not that good, but what Dave says about not making huge adjustments makes sense. You don't want to overcook it.

[Adam Pettman]

Originally Posted by GregInOz

When I get adventurous and want to work the ball, I simply close my stance for a draw, open it for a fade, then square the clubface to the target and try to make a normal swing.

Yep me too.I never hit my irons straight, either a draw or a fade in every and any situation.

[ezra76]

Originally Posted by Rockford35

If you want to hit a subtle draw and have it controllable, get your outside-to-in swing down. Start the clubhead on the outside path on the backswing and bring it insideon your downswing. This promotes counterclockwise spin on the ball. Your method is more of a trap, where your hands do most of the work. That leads to pulls.


R35

Outside in produces a fade for me everytime. When I set up slightly closed and go from the inside and go out and get it I can hit a draw. Unfortunately my natural flight is definitely a fade so I really have to get in a groove to draw it. It's a shame because I could get like 10more yds. on drives. One of these days I'll get both down but I realize even a lot of tour pro's have trouble going both ways. You go both ways?

[Chas]

Originally Posted by 15andlife

Alright guys i've been practicing alot lately on my irons all kinds long mid and short and I have got them down to a tee (no pun intended) even with backspin I can now stick almost every shot within 10ft. from 150yds and less. So I just want to know how to put draw or fade onto the ball. Mainly because im not a long hitter (my average drive is 250) so alot of times i get stuck on the wrong side of a dog leg on a par 4 or par 5 so I went to learn to bend the ball around those a little. So if you have any tips or anything that helped you it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

I don't know if this is the correct way, but I just move my right hand either an inch to the right or an inch to the left. I can't believe the results I get.

[dave.]

Hogan faded the ball from a closed stance...............its all in the right knee

[David B]

I have no problem drawing or fading the ball... it's hitting the damn thing straight that's giving me fits.

Of course I can never predict when the ball will draw or fade... I just have to hope that it happens when it's supposed to... kinda like playing the lottery.

[15andlife]

dave what you said totally make sense and I will defenatley try that when I get out to the range and thanks everyone for all of your answers.