cheaters

[sidvicious]

reading dave ireland's post regarding the longest drive reminded me of what i've encountered lately.

in most tourney's i've played cheating is rampant. as long as the score depends on the trust of the player shooting it, it is suspect.

under dave ireland's facts, approaching the cheater will indeed breed discontent. at times on the course, i've had to stop, and say "hey, wait a minute, that can't be a par. lets see, you have the duffed drive, with the second shot hitting a tree. ........" and so forth.

catching them early works pretty good. after the game is shot, however, is like re pouring concrete; doesn't work to well.

personally, i carry a beaded shot counter. really works well when the memory doesn't. everyone will make an honest mistake, but the cheaters seem to make them far to often.

[Texan]

The course I play at is run by a ton of old codgers and farts that claim to break 60 every time. Thus I have to deal with this as well, and I agree, if the only mistakes in math are in your favor, your a cheater.

[Sandpiper3]

if the only mistakes in math are in your favor, your a cheater

I love this part of golf.... If you signed your card without looking (ie- trust the guy who was taking your score) and he switched a # or made a mistake for a lower score, your DQ-ed, but if its higher then wat you shot, that score stands and u can whine all the way home and thats that... What a great game we play.

[smitty]

Originally Posted by sidvicious

reading dave ireland's post regarding the longest drive reminded me of what i've encountered lately.

in most tourney's i've played cheating is rampant. as long as the score depends on the trust of the player shooting it, it is suspect.

under dave ireland's facts, approaching the cheater will indeed breed discontent. at times on the course, i've had to stop, and say "hey, wait a minute, that can't be a par. lets see, you have the duffed drive, with the second shot hitting a tree. ........" and so forth.

catching them early works pretty good. after the game is shot, however, is like re pouring concrete; doesn't work to well.

personally, i carry a beaded shot counter. really works well when the memory doesn't. everyone will make an honest mistake, but the cheaters seem to make them far to often.

This reminded me of a funny story. A long time ago, I used to play with a guy who carried this type of counter in his pocket that he would click after every shot . . . at least that was the theory. But he would forget to do it on every shot, especially on holes where he was taking quite a few strokes. So sometimes we'd get finished a hole, and we'd ask him what he had, and he would pull the counter out of his pocket and look at it and say "6." Then we would all laugh, because we knew it was more like 8, and that the guy just forgot to click a few times.

We knew he wasn't "cheating," as the guy was just an absent-minded professor type, and he would just forget. You had to know him to understand. It just always gave us a laugh, though, and he was never offended, because he would readily agree that he forgot a few once we took him back through the hole. But it was always funny because no matter how many times he did it, sure enough three holes later he'd have a bad hole again and we'd get to the end of a hole, he'd pull out his clicker and look at it like it the authority of God and pronounce his score. What a character!

[JEFF4i]

Originally Posted by smitty

This reminded me of a funny story. A long time ago, I used to play with a guy who carried this type of counter in his pocket that he would click after every shot . . . at least that was the theory. But he would forget to do it on every shot, especially on holes where he was taking quite a few strokes. So sometimes we'd get finished a hole, and we'd ask him what he had, and he would pull the counter out of his pocket and look at it and say "6." Then we would all laugh, because we knew it was more like 8, and that the guy just forgot to click a few times.

We knew he wasn't "cheating," as the guy was just an absent-minded professor type, and he would just forget. You had to know him to understand. It just always gave us a laugh, though, and he was never offended, because he would readily agree that he forgot a few once we took him back through the hole. But it was always funny because no matter how many times he did it, sure enough three holes later he'd have a bad hole again and we'd get to the end of a hole, he'd pull out his clicker and look at it like it the authority of God and pronounce his score. What a character!

See, now thats not so bad because it wasnt a tournament and he agreed to his fault. Usually I dont care what the others in my foursome or whatever score if its recreational golf, but in a tournament you have to watch like a hawk. I have found that in the high rankings sometimes you get some real mean, and moreso, dishonest, kids. It is discouraging, but I usually get them.

A good story is my neighbor swore he was a scratch golfer, well, we go out to this nice course, my dads treat, and I swear I have never seen a man lose so many balls, sometimes as high as 4 a hole.

[WMitch6]

If you are playing in a competitive situation you have to call out cheaters early to let them know you are in the game. It amazes me how many guys think they can get away with shaving a stroke or rolling the ball.