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    OK guys, I'm on the Hibore train info needed...

    I have decided to pick up a Hibore, always loved the Launcher and after hearing some stuff on here as well as hitting a couple balls....I have decided to make the jump (keeping the Launcher, just in case)

    My question is, I can pick up a used one with the Graf Comp NT for $150, OR spend about $50 more and get the Proforce V2.....

    Is the NT a pretty good shaft? is it worth the extra $50 for the V2 over the NT??

    What say ye????
    In The Bag - Ogio V-12

    Cleveland Hibore 9.5*- UST Proforce V2
    Taylormade V steel 3 wood - MAS Stiff
    Cleveland Launcher 5 Wood -Prolaunch Stiff
    Nickent Hybrid 3 - Steel
    Nickent Hybrid 4 - Steel
    Taylormade RAC OS2 T-Step ultralite 5-9
    Cleveland CG 10 53*
    Cleveland CG 10 56*
    Cleveland 900 gunmetal 60*
    Yes! - Marilyn

    Callaway HX Tour

  2. #2
    Check eBay, but be careful. Always contact the seller before you even bid, and with plenty of time. If you hop on and see one going in 20 minutes, without any questions or anything, it's best to wait.

    However, you can also get a great deal if you approach it correctly. I mean I got my 425 for 160, which between the shaft, club, and the fact that 4 weights combined costs 60 dollars, isn't too shabby.
    Callaway FT-i Tour Neutral 8.5* Accuflex Creation 65-X
    Nike Sumo 2 9.5* UST Proforce V2 76g-S
    r7 460 8.5* Grafalloy NT Prototype 65 X-Stiff
    Tour Edge Exotics 18* Accuflex Evolution Stiff
    Titleist 975F 16.5* V2 85 X-Stiff
    Wilson Staff Hb5 17* Hybrid Rifle Flighted X-Stiff
    Titleist DCI 990s True Temper Stiff
    RAC TP True Temper 52*
    RAC TP 56* True Temper
    Scotty Cameron Studio Design #1
    Location: New Mexico

  3. ive heard both are nice shafts, with the graffaloy playing stiffer than the proforce.

    you need to ask somebody who has hit the hibore with those exact shafts, i have hit a taylormade with a graf comp nt but not a hibore with it.

    i think a couple people on this site have the hibore with the proforce v2.
    MY WITB 2008
    Driver- Taylormade Burner 9.5 RE-AX Superfast S
    (Backup)Taylormade R7 425 9.5 Grafalloy Blue Tour X
    3 wood- R7 TP 15* Redboard 73X
    Hybrid- Titleist 585-H 19* Aldila NV 85 S
    4-9-Mizuno MP 30 DGS300
    PW- Mizuno MP 60 DGS300
    Putter- Scotty Cameron Newport Studio Style 1.5
    Wedges- TM Rac Satin TP 52*, TM Rac Black TP 56*, and Titleist Vokey Spin Milled 60*

    All with GP Decade...


    low 18-64
    low 9-31
    Cap-7.2


    Redboard 73X 3 wood length for sale

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    Cripes, get the NT.

    The V2 is a great shaft, but that NT is very smooth. Matched with the HiBore, that'd be a sweet setup. When I hit one with the TEE head, it delivered confidence inspiring drives, no matter what swing you put on it.

    Before I got my Accuflex Evo, the NT was by far my second choice.

    $150? That's a steal.

    R35
    Callaway FT-9 Tour N 8.5* Matrix Ozik F6M2
    Tour Edge Exotics 13* Accuflex Evolution
    Adams PNT Tour 17* Matrix Altus HB
    Adams PNT Tour Proto 20* Matrix Altus HB
    Nakashima NP-1 Tour Forged 4-PW FST Pro 115
    Nakashima NP-1 Tour Forged 56* and 60* FST Pro 115
    Callaway Tour TT2 Raw Ace Of Clubs Edition Nippon Pro Heavy

    TLT'd

    Alternates

    Cleveland Launcher Steel 19* Accuflex Evolution
    Odyssey White Hot #2 TL Edition Nippon Pro Heavy


    Too many churches and not enough truth...

  5. Are you sure you meant the Graf Comp NT? It is not a "standard" shaft in it. The Grafalloy ProLaunch 65 is. If it's the Comp NT (nano technology) that would be a good shaft and it costs more the the ProForce V2.
    What's In the Bag
    Ping G10 9º w/ stiff Diamana BB
    Cobra F Speed LD 3-wood 15.5º w/ reg YS Tour AD
    Cobra Baffler DWS 20º & 23º w/ reg VS Proto HL
    Ping S59 3-PW w/ stiff Nippon PRO 950GH
    Titleist Vokey Spin Milled 56º wedge
    Scotty Cameron Circa 62 #3 35"
    Adidas Powerband shoes
    Ogio Atlas Golf Bag
    Titleist NXT extreme ball

    Location: southeastern Wisconsin
    Low 18: 78 (once)
    Low 18: 79 (five times)
    Low 9: 36 (twice)
    Hdcp: 15.5
    Aces: 1

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by warbirdlover View Post
    ....and it costs more the the ProForce V2.
    This means relatively nothing in terms of the success of a club. Unless you're thinking about resale.

    The V2 is a great shaft for some guys. And the Comp NT is a good shaft for some as well. Guys like Eracer, Slingblade, ect. couldn't hit that shaft to save their lives in that TEE. I could bomb it.

    It's all very personal, money shouldn't make a difference, really.

    R35
    Callaway FT-9 Tour N 8.5* Matrix Ozik F6M2
    Tour Edge Exotics 13* Accuflex Evolution
    Adams PNT Tour 17* Matrix Altus HB
    Adams PNT Tour Proto 20* Matrix Altus HB
    Nakashima NP-1 Tour Forged 4-PW FST Pro 115
    Nakashima NP-1 Tour Forged 56* and 60* FST Pro 115
    Callaway Tour TT2 Raw Ace Of Clubs Edition Nippon Pro Heavy

    TLT'd

    Alternates

    Cleveland Launcher Steel 19* Accuflex Evolution
    Odyssey White Hot #2 TL Edition Nippon Pro Heavy


    Too many churches and not enough truth...

  7. #7
    "Are you sure you meant the Graf Comp NT? It is not a "standard" shaft in it. The Grafalloy ProLaunch 65 is. If it's the Comp NT (nano technology) that would be a good shaft and it costs more the the ProForce V2."

    No, it is a NT in R flex, as is the V2. It's an Ebay sale, so I would guess it is either a special order or the shaft has been replaced.

    I can hit the heck out of the Prolaunch in my 5W, but I put one in my driver and it's a hook machine...go figure.

    Both of these are regular flex shafts, as the PL stiff has kinda scared me off stiff for a bit. My wife has a R5 with the Speeder in R and I hit it very well, but not near as far as my Launcher with the stock R shaft....problem is I hit the Speeder straight, and the original Launcher Fuji shaft was a slice machine if I tried to put any muscle on it. If I could find a shaft comparable to the Speeder, but a tad stiffer...I would be gold. The search continues.
    In The Bag - Ogio V-12

    Cleveland Hibore 9.5*- UST Proforce V2
    Taylormade V steel 3 wood - MAS Stiff
    Cleveland Launcher 5 Wood -Prolaunch Stiff
    Nickent Hybrid 3 - Steel
    Nickent Hybrid 4 - Steel
    Taylormade RAC OS2 T-Step ultralite 5-9
    Cleveland CG 10 53*
    Cleveland CG 10 56*
    Cleveland 900 gunmetal 60*
    Yes! - Marilyn

    Callaway HX Tour

  8. I had a Launcher comp the start of this summer with the stock Cleveland reg flex shaft and it's exactly as you said, a slice machine if you put any kind of swing to it at all. But you stick a different shaft in them they're much better. The Comp NT is a great shaft.
    What's In the Bag
    Ping G10 9º w/ stiff Diamana BB
    Cobra F Speed LD 3-wood 15.5º w/ reg YS Tour AD
    Cobra Baffler DWS 20º & 23º w/ reg VS Proto HL
    Ping S59 3-PW w/ stiff Nippon PRO 950GH
    Titleist Vokey Spin Milled 56º wedge
    Scotty Cameron Circa 62 #3 35"
    Adidas Powerband shoes
    Ogio Atlas Golf Bag
    Titleist NXT extreme ball

    Location: southeastern Wisconsin
    Low 18: 78 (once)
    Low 18: 79 (five times)
    Low 9: 36 (twice)
    Hdcp: 15.5
    Aces: 1

  9. #9
    Well, I ended up winning the HB with the Proforce R shaft. I was all set to go and buy the NT club, but someone had made a bid, so the BIN was gone, and it ended up over $200....damn, I should have bought it when I first saw it....Oh well.

    I ended up getting this club for less than $180 still in the wrapper W/head-cover, so hopefully the shaft will fit my swing. I am happily awaiting its arrival. It is finally getting to be good golf weather in the Panhandle of Fl......Sorry WBL

    Also hooked up with a 757 Stiff to go into my Launcher 460. I may be selling the Prolaunch S if anyone is interested, or maybe find a TM head in a lower loft for it and give that a go. I'm really interested in trying the R7 and have been for some time, the quotes of it being unforgiving have held me off, but with a shaft with no home......maybe. I take it some TM heads as .350 as well?
    In The Bag - Ogio V-12

    Cleveland Hibore 9.5*- UST Proforce V2
    Taylormade V steel 3 wood - MAS Stiff
    Cleveland Launcher 5 Wood -Prolaunch Stiff
    Nickent Hybrid 3 - Steel
    Nickent Hybrid 4 - Steel
    Taylormade RAC OS2 T-Step ultralite 5-9
    Cleveland CG 10 53*
    Cleveland CG 10 56*
    Cleveland 900 gunmetal 60*
    Yes! - Marilyn

    Callaway HX Tour

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    Cool

    Quote Originally Posted by pdlnole View Post
    I have decided to pick up a Hibore, always loved the Launcher and after hearing some stuff on here as well as hitting a couple balls....I have decided to make the jump (keeping the Launcher, just in case)

    My question is, I can pick up a used one with the Graf Comp NT for $150, OR spend about $50 more and get the Proforce V2.....

    Is the NT a pretty good shaft? is it worth the extra $50 for the V2 over the NT??

    What say ye????
    There's no good answer for this question, as it all depends on what shaft would work for your game. You need to hit some balls with both a HiBore, with both shafts, then you will know which one is best for you. As to the price, I have to wonder why the driver with the more expensive shaft is selling for less money? That doesn't make a lot of sense, and that I believe is the reason someone asked about whether it was in fact a Comp NT shaft.

  11. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by Rockford35 View Post
    Guys like Eracer, Slingblade, ect. couldn't hit that shaft to save their lives in that TEE. I could bomb it.
    R35
    Why do I feel like an ex-girlfriend just told 600 of her girlfriends all about my (ahem...) "short" comings.
    "Maybe he could sell it on Ebay, say it looks like the Virgin Mary, Sergei Fedorov, or Leno."
    - R35 -

    TaylorMade R5 10.5º w/ 65g RE*AX
    TaylorMade R5 19º w/ RE*AX Fairway Shaft
    Baffler 3/R w/Nippon NS950Pro
    Baffler 4/R w/Nippon NS950Pro
    Baffler 5/R w/Nippon NS950Pro
    KZG Evolution 5-PW w/Graman UL580 Limey
    Srixon WG-504 52º
    Srixon WG-505 56º
    Guerin-Rife 2-Bar Hybrid Blade

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