Club Lofts Question / Bag Setup

[tannerman200]

Right now I play Titleist 762's 4-PW. Just wondering how you guys think I should fill out my bag. Right now my four iron is 22 degrees with my driver being 9.5. I have a 20 degree hybrid and 17 degree 4 wood but was thinking about going with a 15 degree 3 wood and 18 degree hybrid. Also my PW is 46 degrees. If I want to play 3 wedges then would the best setup be 50,54,58 or 52,56,60 or something else. Thanks for the help.

[Jacque]

wow 46 on the pw huh....and i thought my 47 was "strong lofted"..

to your situation....the wood hybrid dilema...go with the ones you hit the most consistently...the wedge loft dilema....4* is the standard variation between shorter clubs...probably not a good idea to have an 6* gap between your pw and gap wedge....just a thought.....

[Scotty01292]

I've got the same problem. I've got a 10.5* driver. I'm getting a 16* Baffler and i've got a 20* Baffler as well. Then 4 iron thru to AW. My PW is 46 as well, so i'm getting 51*, 56* and 60* wedges for christmas. That way i've only got 5* between each wedge, and 4* between the SW and LW

[FKA19]

Originally Posted by Jacque

wow 46 on the pw huh....and i thought my 47 was "strong lofted"..

ha, tm makes 44* pw's

[atlgolfer]

Originally Posted by tannerman200

Right now I play Titleist 762's 4-PW. Just wondering how you guys think I should fill out my bag. Right now my four iron is 22 degrees with my driver being 9.5. I have a 20 degree hybrid and 17 degree 4 wood but was thinking about going with a 15 degree 3 wood and 18 degree hybrid. Also my PW is 46 degrees. If I want to play 3 wedges then would the best setup be 50,54,58 or 52,56,60 or something else. Thanks for the help.

On the wedges, try to space them about equal degrees so I would go with 52,56,60 or like lot of us, do PW, 54 and 60. Now, as far as between 3 & 4 wood, which one do you hit better? carry that one. Same for the hybrids.
For example, I can hit my 20 degree hybrid just as far as my 5 wood even though the shaft and loft is stronger on the 5 wood why? probably because I can flush it and hit the sweet spot more often.

Whatever combination you choose it should be fine. good luck..

[ezra76]

Tough choices in the driver-iron range for me too. I was on the 4W band wagon till I started playing a longer tighter course a few times. My 3Wood just gets me a full club closer than the 4W. Now I can't hit the 3wood nearly as well off the deck as the 4W. Here comes the 5W, 8-10 yds. shorter than the 4W but easier to hit, can hit it higher for a softer landing and more accurate.

[JEFF4i]

I just buy lots and lots of clubs and to fill the gaps, and based on what course I'm playing, choose accordingly.

If you want 3 wedges in addition to your PW, 52, 56, 60

[Jacque]

Originally Posted by 19handicap

ha, tm makes 44* pw's

isn't that a nine iron???? what's the point just to hit something that says PW on the bottom that distance??? why not just put PW on the bottom of all your clubs.....

I think they should get away from the numbering of irons and just do them the way they do the woods and wedges....put the loft on there....that way you would know how far you hit your 48* and your 44*.......

so how does tm break it down....if logic follows..

44* - p
40* - 9
36* - 8
32* - 7
28* - 6
25* - 5
22* - 4
19* - 3
16* - 2
13* - 1

so you would need a 13* - 5 wood, a 10* 3 wood, and a 5* - driver to keep the loft variations the same as the irons.....

why would anyone buy a set of irons with a 44* pw.....to close up the wedge end you would need an AW of 48*, gw of 52*, sw of 56* and lw of 60*


so real quick like we have
8 irons
3 woods
4 wedges
1 putter....by the way that's going to be a .0001* putter.....

so total we have 16 clubs or 15 if you drop the 60* but still what the hey was TM thinking.....

[Pa Jayhawk]

Originally Posted by Jacque

44* - p
40* - 9
36* - 8
32* - 7
28* - 6
25* - 5
22* - 4
19* - 3
16* - 2
13* - 1

so you would need a 13* - 5 wood, a 10* 3 wood, and a 5* - driver to keep the loft variations the same as the irons.....

Although I fully agree with the premise of what you are saying, and love the idea of simply putting the Loft on the end instead of the iron number, I did want to point something out. A 2i is the equivelent of a 5w, and a 1i is the equivelent of a 3w. So it would be a 16* 5w and a 13* 3w, which is not to uncommon for a strong 5w and 3w. In fact the Ping 3w and 5w that I own, but no longer have in my bag are 13* and 17*. Strong FW's have been common for a while, and many manufactures make both probably for the same reason they make ever lofted wedge in creation as well. With this set though, it is when you get to the wedges and not the woods were you will see the problems start. 44* PW is just rediculous. They are really forcing you to either purchase like wedges or possibly carry 2 PW's. Again though, any more you can find Wedges or Woods in just about any loft, so it is really not hurting you, or the company for that matter, except with the exception of resell value, where 3-pw is the common accepted set for resell. Personally with that set I would only buy a 6 to 7 iron through PW, so in the end it may not be a bad option. It would give me room to fill the bag with Hybrids, FW's, and Wedges that in my opinion are of a higher quality, more accurate, and easier to hit. The fewer Irons I have to buy, the better IMO.

edit 1 - ... and any more, and even more alarming, you will find 23* for one manufacturer may not be tthe same as 23* for another, and 23* for one may play the same as 16* for another and 28* for even another. It is not like you can go in and say I want a 23* hybrid, and expect it to fill the gap between a 20*, and 26* from another manufacturer. From my experience with Hybrids, if they made them in identical lofts, I am betting I could likely use a 23* Sonartec, 23* Cobra, and 23* TM or Halo to replace 3 seperate clubs in my bag

[JEFF4i]

That's what they should do!

Just stick the loft on the bottom of the clubs instead of the number. I like it!

[ezra76]

I play a 50-54-58 setup now. Some (Like that darn Canadian guy) may disagree but it serves more than just a distance gap. It's also a lie vs. bounce issue for me. My 50 is a 6 bounce, nice and low for a tight lie. I can stop a shot from 20yds. off bare hardpan. Now my 54 is a 9 bounce. Better for sand, rough but still low enough to take off the fairway. 58 is an 8 bounce. I can stop it on a dime off the fairway and still have enough to play it out of the sand or rough. It all really depends on what the course you play demands. I'd rather have the bounce/loft options inside 100 and around the greens as opposed to 4 clubs to cover yardages from 210-235.

[dave.]

my pitching wedge came from the factory as a 50deg,this is how its been since the dawn of time,its a relatively modern phenomena for modern man to resort to neandethal tendencies in his desire to hit ridiculously long lofts.

Fact remains the vast majority of golfers will be more suited to HIGHER lofts,they will be more accurate.

[VtDivot]

Originally Posted by dave.

my pitching wedge came from the factory as a 50deg,this is how its been since the dawn of time,its a relatively modern phenomena for modern man to resort to neandethal tendencies in his desire to hit ridiculously long lofts.

Fact remains the vast majority of golfers will be more suited to HIGHER lofts,they will be more accurate.

Higher loft = less spin = straighter shot

[dave.]

Higher loft=less side spin=straighter shot

[ezra76]

Originally Posted by dave.

Higher loft=less side spin=straighter shot

Lower loft = more sidespin + lower trajectory = Yes, I hit my fair share of 120 yard 5irons with a 40yard slice out of the treeline.