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Anyone heard of Tim Larkin the martial arts bloke?

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  1. EnglishGolfer

    EnglishGolfer Talks a good game

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    He's over here at the mo' causing quite a stir regarding his policy of teaching, quite literally, deadly defence techniques to members of the public.

    The one thing that the media is particularly picking up on is the "kill a man in 4 moves" thing which sounds odd, but there must be more to it than the description hints at. His philosophy differs from normal self defence where you are told to do what you can to give yourself a chance to get out of there. He seems to want you to go a bit further when retalliating, almost to teach them a lesson, a possibly deadly one.

    It's hard to seperate hype from negative media sentiment and the truth, so I'd be interested to know if any of you have heard of him or maybe even attended his course.
     
  2. eclark53520

    eclark53520 DB Member Extraordinaire Supporting Member

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    Never heard of him, let alone taken his class.

    The 'media' LOVES scare tactics. 'kill a man in 4 moves' is a wet dream for a media source.

    If it takes you 4 moves to kill someone, you are doing something very wrong. There are currently 7 things on my desk right now(in an office where there is a strict NO WEAPONS rule, god i hate Madison) that i could use to kill someone just by standing up and jamming it in their throat or chest....and without almost immediate medical attention they would most likely die unless i happened to miss everything vital running through the throat.



    4 moves sounds a bit slow to me....
     
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    slickpitt Well-Known Member

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    It's all media fishing. Teaching someone the 5-point palm exploding heart technique is one thing... but can they actually do it is another!

    YouTube - The Bride Kills Bill

    Aside from that... as far as self defense goes... if someone jumps on me I'm going to do any and everything I can think of to protect myself. I'm not a fighter and won't start shit.. so the term "fair fight" doesn't compute with me. Someone jumps me you better believe I'm going to look for something to kill that F$%^&r if I have to. Or at least gouge an eye out! :prop:
     
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    gwlee7 Ho's from Rocky Mount, NC Supporting Member

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    I'll agree with you about the fair fight part. If I end up having to fight, the one thing it won't be is "fair".
     
  5. Wi-Golfer

    Wi-Golfer Golfer on hiatus. Supporting Member

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    If I end up getting in a fight, which thankfully hasn't happened in the last 15+ years, all bets are off. I will gouge eyes, kick you in the balls, yank your hair, etc.
     
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    xamilo Right Curving Driver.... Supporting Member

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    NEver heard of him, but the description completely interferes with the definition of a Martial Art...
     
  7. acrossthepond

    acrossthepond Well-Known Member

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    a. you're right, which is why he's not even remotely a martial artist.
    b. gouging eyes sounds good but unless you've practiced it, you won't do it in a real fight. you'll revert to what you know.
    c. i have taken his training. it's not at all what it's made out to be here. it'll change your perspective on violence regardless of where you've been or what you've done.
     
  8. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Taylormade Ho' Magnet

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    I don't fight. I shoot.
     
  9. EnglishGolfer

    EnglishGolfer Talks a good game

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    Well come on then, you can't leave us hanging like that! :D

    Don't get us started on that again, I remember a huge thread a couple of years ago on that topic and not one person was willing to give any ground to the opposing argument, the MB divide was massive :shocked:
     
  10. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Taylormade Ho' Magnet

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    Well, I certainly know the climate here when it comes to guns, but I see no difference in learning to kill someone with mixed martial arts, a wooden stick, or a gun. It all lends to the same end result, and the only difference is to argue that a stick wasn't "made" to kill only.. I'm trained and licensed with a weapon, I use it for competitions and for fun, and on the flip side, if attacked, I certainly don't feel that I should throw down and tussle with some maniac in the dirt, and risk anything. I'll simply drop him with $.50 worth of lead and copper and keep my hands clean. It's no different than you training to kill a man in 4 moves with your hands and lazer beam eyes.
     
  11. EnglishGolfer

    EnglishGolfer Talks a good game

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    I'm trying really hard not to bite here ;)
     
  12. eclark53520

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    About what? Him exercising his constitutional right?
     
  13. EnglishGolfer

    EnglishGolfer Talks a good game

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    No, about the issue of guns being widely available to people most of whom you wouldn't trust to look after your goldfish for a weekend.

    Consider me biting.:p
     
  14. eclark53520

    eclark53520 DB Member Extraordinaire Supporting Member

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    Cars are widely available to these people as well. And they kill more humans/year than guns....

    "OH, but cars weren't invented specifically to kill people like guns were"

    Point? Fact is they still kill more people than guns....so there needs to be more regulations right? That will stop cars from killing people right?
     
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    My apologizes for the subject change. EnglishGolfer, don't bite.. Just leave it be. I appreciate that you think I'm some nut that can't be trusted to take care of a goldfish, so I'll hold off any personal judgement on my side..... :rolleyes: I've seen what "oh nos!! guns!!" will do to many people here, and respect their stances, regardless if I think it's silly or not.

    In all seriousness, I'm not gonna take it any further than my original point. Martial Arts, and Guns.. no difference. They all are for self defense, killing, injuring, and both are used in forms of recreation with peaceful means.
     
  16. EnglishGolfer

    EnglishGolfer Talks a good game

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    That is the worst argument I've ever heard on the matter, the comparison doesn't even make sense.

    Lol, I'm sure you'd do a fine job of goldfish sitting hence my careful use of the words "...most of whom..." in my earlier post.

    If anyone wants to start the gun debate up in another thread then please feel free, I'm always up for an intelligent argument where I might even learn something. Before I drop the matter though, regarding Martial Arts and guns being the same I must disagree as MA are often used as a form of exercise, guns are for one purpose, shooting stuff/people.
     
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    I don't know about that, I've got a Centennial Edition Winchester 30-30 with the old octagonal barrel, weighs a ton. Gives you a pretty good workout. :D
     
  18. eclark53520

    eclark53520 DB Member Extraordinaire Supporting Member

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    Believe me, i know for a fact that ANY argument i make against what you believe will be a bad example and not make any sense to you.

    I am OK with that. I have guns, i protect myself and my family and nothing you say or do will ever convince me to give up my weapons. The 2nd amendment was put in there just in case the government decided to ignore the rest of them.
     
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    EnglishGolfer Talks a good game

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    It's going to be one of those arguments is it where you know everything there is to know already, including everything about me, so there's no point lowering yourself to discuss the matter properly with the likes of me is it? FatC1ty shares your view which opposes mine, but where he differs from you is that he puts his point across in a manner that makes sense as he has the intellectual capacity to present a decent rebuttal.

    I think I may just be being a bit touchy seeing as we've only ever had one exchange yet you've decided you know everything there is to know about me.
     
  20. eclark53520

    eclark53520 DB Member Extraordinaire Supporting Member

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    I know nothing about you, never claimed to. This is not an argument. No one is yelling, no ones feelings are being hurt(at least mine are not).

    Remember this little gem:

    This is quite the intellectual rebuttal.

    All you have stated so far is that you don't like the 'fact' that anyone can get their hands on a gun(which is not true, we have laws in place that keep honest citizens honest). What do you suggest we do to stop this? Who would be 'intelligent' enough to own/operate a gun? If i am not deemed 'intelligent' enough to operate my own weapons, who is going to protect me?

    Please explain to me a better system than a well armed public? Then we will have something to have a competent discussion about.

    I have created this.
     

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