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And I am perfectly fine with that, as is most of Europe, and many other democratically free countries. So I fail to see your point?
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20081113/healthcare_inflation_081113/20081113?hub=Canada said:"Health-care spending is expected to grow faster than Canada's economy, outpacing inflation and population growth," said Glenda Yeates, president and CEO of the health-information group.
http://www.cmaj.ca/cgi/content/full/170/5/776-a said:The Canadian Association of Radiologists (CAR) describes the situation as "almost criminal" and warned that the province could face legal action from patients. "Denial of care is a violation of the Canada Health Act," said chief executive Dr. Normand Laberge. "To use an expression, they are getting away with murder."
It doesn't scale... as clearly shown by your system, where people have to come to the US for care they cannot get at home. Because you can't tax people enough to pay for a totally-comprehensive healthcare system ( including a huge cut for government ) without killing the country. Already Canada's expenditures are approaching ours.
And wait times far exceed ours...
The numbers you are talking about are very small. The people crossing are doing so because they want to no because they need to.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080119.neuro191/BNStory/specialScienceandHealth/home said:More than 150 critically ill Canadians – many with life-threatening cerebral hemorrhages – have been rushed to the United States since the spring of 2006 because they could not obtain intensive-care beds here.
Before patients with bleeding in or outside the brain have been whisked through U.S. operating-room doors, some have languished for as long as eight hours in Canadian emergency wards while health-care workers scrambled to locate care.
If you need a knee replacement you will get one here. It may take 4 months but you will get it and will not cost you a penny out of pocket. If you dont feel like waiting you can go elsewhere and pay. Nothing life threatening has wait times. I know this is a long ways off from the epic failings your going on about, buts its the facts. I will bet our system is around in its current form a lot longer than yours is in its current form. BTW Dave, have you ever been to Canada, or Europe? Have you ever seen these systems in person?
And again with the news clippings? You realize news has an agenda to fill. Come here, ask around. Its a far cry from what you'd expect.
YOU'RE the one preaching about how you're getting everything for FREE FREE FREE! I'm backing a system I have to pay for. Who's selfish, there? Really?
It's been my experience that Internet discussions involving US and Canadian health care systems always end up being donnybrooks, and in most cases locked by moderators.
It appears this one is heading in the same direction.
Kevin
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