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Wish I hadn'tI've never even opened that thread. And I'm okay with that.
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Wish I hadn'tI've never even opened that thread. And I'm okay with that.
AgreeProb my been too long thread
Maybe I don't explain things well. Ask Tom Wishon or Ralph Maltby the effect having clubs that fit properly for length, flex, lie, loft, swingweight, total weight, grip style, and grip size has on the golf swing and how it automatically improves ball striking, as opposed to using clubs that don't even come close to fitting someone properly, as in those bought off-the-rack. These two gentlemen know more about golf clubs than all of us here put together, and they both have forgotten more about golf clubs than I know, so I recommend reading anything you can find by these guys. Yes, it takes a lot more than the right clubs to score lower consistently, but an immediate improvement can normally be expected when the clubs fit the golfer.That's strange, how do you build these clubs that force me to swing them properly? And force me to aim properly, or choose the correct club, etc.
Clubs don't lower anything. You still have to hit them.
Confidence probably has more to do with their success after being fitted than the clubs. If someone believes the clubs are better, they will play better regardless of the clubs.
The same goes for a lot of things. Fishing is a good one, give a guy a rod and reel that he believes is better or he is more confident in, he will fish harder and catch more fish. I've seen it many times. And its not because the rod and reel are catching more fish.
Maybe I don't explain things well. Ask Tom Wishon or Ralph Maltby the effect having clubs that fit properly for length, flex, lie, loft, swingweight, total weight, grip style, and grip size has on the golf swing and how it automatically improves ball striking, as opposed to using clubs that don't even come close to fitting someone properly, as in those bought off-the-rack. These two gentlemen know more about golf clubs than all of us here put together, and they both have forgotten more about golf clubs than I know, so I recommend reading anything you can find by these guys. Yes, it takes a lot more than the right clubs to score lower consistently, but an immediate improvement can normally be expected when the clubs fit the golfer.
Hell, I can catch a mess of fish with a cane pole and a gummy worm. Golf ain't fishing.
I would tend to agree, even if the only advantage is in your head. That confidence in knowing your clubs fit you well will help your scores. We all know how much golf gets in our heads right?Fitted clubs DO help. I need to get refit... I know that I play better with clubs I have built with proper shafts, loft and lie that's right, and having the right grip. I don't play well with my Rocketballz, because they are ALL STOCK with the exception of the grips.
Just say'n
Maybe I don't explain things well. Ask Tom Wishon or Ralph Maltby the effect having clubs that fit properly for length, flex, lie, loft, swingweight, total weight, grip style, and grip size has on the golf swing and how it automatically improves ball striking, as opposed to using clubs that don't even come close to fitting someone properly, as in those bought off-the-rack. These two gentlemen know more about golf clubs than all of us here put together, and they both have forgotten more about golf clubs than I know, so I recommend reading anything you can find by these guys. Yes, it takes a lot more than the right clubs to score lower consistently, but an immediate improvement can normally be expected when the clubs fit the golfer.
Hell, I can catch a mess of fish with a cane pole and a gummy worm. Golf ain't fishing.
I said that clubs help lower scores, which they do. I also said that they weren't all that was required. Of course you have to put in the effort, make changes, etc. for long lasting results. But custom fit clubs can help those who slice horrifically, for instance, to no longer slice the ball, without a single swing change, but by fitting them for a 4° closed face angle driver.I never said golf was fishing....you didn't read that thoroughly did you?
I said that clubs help lower scores, which they do. I also said that they weren't all that was required. Of course you have to put in the effort, make changes, etc. for long lasting results. But custom fit clubs can help those who slice horrifically, for instance, to no longer slice the ball, without a single swing change, but by fitting them for a 4° closed face angle driver.
My point about the fishing pole was that fishing poles don't have anything to do with catching fish. I've caught plenty of fish with an old Zebco 202 spin cast in my younger days, and never had a fancy rod and reel. You can either fish or you can't. The same isn't true when it comes to golf. You're not trying to lower your score in fishing, therefore custom fitting for fishing gear is not at all comparable to custom fitting for golf equipment. You were equating fishing to golf as far as custom fitting goes, and it was totally illogical to make such comparisons.
Also Im pretty sure tiger could shoot par on most courses with off the shelf clubs.
They might not be better golfers, but they usually do post lower scores right away. Are you saying that all of my customers over the last 20+ years who reported immediate improvement in their scores were lying to spare my feelings?We agree that starting with fitted clubs is best. Im simply saying that custom fit clubs don't automatically make someone instantly better.
Possibly.They might not be better golfers, but they usually do post lower scores right away. Are you saying that all of my customers over the last 20+ years who reported immediate improvement in their scores were lying to spare my feelings?