dave.
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Is it really this good? I've copied this from a fitter who posted it in another forum
Keyser,
Heres the counterweighting story as best I know it:
• Golfsmith conducted a test in 2004:
– Over 30 testers, a mix of Harvey Penick teaching pros and students
– Age range about 40 to 80 years
– Handicap range scratch to high mid-handicappers
– Two test drivers used:
• Both 10.5 degree loft with a Spine Aligned, 65 gram graphite “R” flex shaft at 45 inch length
• Clubs were identical except one had a 65g butt weight
• Swing weights were D2 and B3 respectively
• Butt weighted average club swing speed 2 mph higher, launch angle 1 degree higher, and carry distance was 9 yards more
• Over 70% hit counter-weighted club farther
• Average distance gain was 14 yards
• 15 of 23 testers gained more than 5 yards
• Directional accuracy was improved
Why did the butt weighted club appear to be better?
• At the time no one could explain it in a way that most golfers and club-fitters could relate
• Now, several years later, our explanations include:
– Counter-weighting was not needed very often in the past because golf clubs were heavier than today’s clubs with graphite shafts and lighter grips and the player could feel the club
– As golf club total weight was reduced by lighter shafts and grips, many golfers lost club feel and weight addition was needed to improve swing dynamics
• Counter-weighting restores the feel needed to maintain swing plane and to more easily feel the golf club
• Counter-weighting increases total weight of the golf club and moves club balance point closer to the grip. Some players feel head weight loss, but most do not.
• Butt-weighted shafts were tried but limited because it was one weight fits all
• Counter-weighting results in a substantially higher mass in the butt and it gives the fitter different weight options. The swing speed increase from lighter shafts is not adversely affected because the added weight is in the hands
• Bottom line is that more club weight from butt weights restored feel and control without any swing speed reduction
Types of golfers that benefit
• Aggressive Transition move: Potential for substantial improvement in accuracy and control. Counter weights increase the club total weight and gives these golfers more feel and control of the golf club
• Very Quick Tempo’s: Counter-weighting for this golfer creates a “smoother” tempo which leads to better control and accuracy
• Early to Midway Release: Many of these golfers increase their swing speed and club center contact increasing ball speed and distance. Additionally, swing path and face angle at impact often improves
• Outside-To-Inside Swing Path: More weight in the hands, often improves swing path considerably. More weight in the hands reduces the golfers ability to “Cast” the club outward and helps them “Drop” the club into the slot. Last year Keith Chatham reported he had seen a 50% improvement in a few golfers with Out-to-In swing paths. He said, “their final swing path is still Out-to In, however, now they play a controllable fade instead of their dreaded slice.”
• After testing for Length those Golfers whose on-center hits are very close but just not quite on-center.
The Test Process
• Counter-weighting may not improve the performance of every golfer, but it could
• After competing your normal fitting process, conduct counter-weighting tests during a follow-up session. I call it a tweaking session
• Use a subset of the clubs you have built from your fitting. I use the driver and 6 iron
• Conduct ball striking tests with these clubs 4 strikes each weight, from no weight to 40g or maybe 60g in 10g increments. The data will tell which weight is best
Conclusions for counter-weighting
• Certain golfers see improvement in ball striking:
– Swing speed, ball speed and distance increase
– Better swing path, contact quality, distance control, direction and feel
– 30% increase distance 70% direction and distance control
– Counter-weighting changes swing weight, but not golf club MOI as seen from the club handle.
Now we are into Optimal Weighting. Here’s that story:
• Since 2004 when golf club counter weighting was demonstrated to help golfers hit it longer and straighter, the success rate on longer has been 30 percent and straighter, 70 percent. Over this period club fitters used counter weighting as a final step in the fitting after determining for each golfer the best weight, length, face angle, lie angle, shaft flex and profiling and so on for their golf clubs.
• We have transitioned from partial success with counter-weighting to almost total success with Optimal Weighting Technology.
• What do we know about golf club Optimal Weighting Technology? Optimal weighting technology is the optimization of golf club total weight and balance point for each individual golfer’s swing mechanics!
• Recently the success rate for both distance and direction improvement has increased dramatically with the use of a new Tour Lock product called the Opti-Vibe Power Weight. Distance and direction improvement for almost all golfers is being observed, and this product even works on a golfers existing equipment.
Keyser,
Heres the counterweighting story as best I know it:
• Golfsmith conducted a test in 2004:
– Over 30 testers, a mix of Harvey Penick teaching pros and students
– Age range about 40 to 80 years
– Handicap range scratch to high mid-handicappers
– Two test drivers used:
• Both 10.5 degree loft with a Spine Aligned, 65 gram graphite “R” flex shaft at 45 inch length
• Clubs were identical except one had a 65g butt weight
• Swing weights were D2 and B3 respectively
• Butt weighted average club swing speed 2 mph higher, launch angle 1 degree higher, and carry distance was 9 yards more
• Over 70% hit counter-weighted club farther
• Average distance gain was 14 yards
• 15 of 23 testers gained more than 5 yards
• Directional accuracy was improved
Why did the butt weighted club appear to be better?
• At the time no one could explain it in a way that most golfers and club-fitters could relate
• Now, several years later, our explanations include:
– Counter-weighting was not needed very often in the past because golf clubs were heavier than today’s clubs with graphite shafts and lighter grips and the player could feel the club
– As golf club total weight was reduced by lighter shafts and grips, many golfers lost club feel and weight addition was needed to improve swing dynamics
• Counter-weighting restores the feel needed to maintain swing plane and to more easily feel the golf club
• Counter-weighting increases total weight of the golf club and moves club balance point closer to the grip. Some players feel head weight loss, but most do not.
• Butt-weighted shafts were tried but limited because it was one weight fits all
• Counter-weighting results in a substantially higher mass in the butt and it gives the fitter different weight options. The swing speed increase from lighter shafts is not adversely affected because the added weight is in the hands
• Bottom line is that more club weight from butt weights restored feel and control without any swing speed reduction
Types of golfers that benefit
• Aggressive Transition move: Potential for substantial improvement in accuracy and control. Counter weights increase the club total weight and gives these golfers more feel and control of the golf club
• Very Quick Tempo’s: Counter-weighting for this golfer creates a “smoother” tempo which leads to better control and accuracy
• Early to Midway Release: Many of these golfers increase their swing speed and club center contact increasing ball speed and distance. Additionally, swing path and face angle at impact often improves
• Outside-To-Inside Swing Path: More weight in the hands, often improves swing path considerably. More weight in the hands reduces the golfers ability to “Cast” the club outward and helps them “Drop” the club into the slot. Last year Keith Chatham reported he had seen a 50% improvement in a few golfers with Out-to-In swing paths. He said, “their final swing path is still Out-to In, however, now they play a controllable fade instead of their dreaded slice.”
• After testing for Length those Golfers whose on-center hits are very close but just not quite on-center.
The Test Process
• Counter-weighting may not improve the performance of every golfer, but it could
• After competing your normal fitting process, conduct counter-weighting tests during a follow-up session. I call it a tweaking session
• Use a subset of the clubs you have built from your fitting. I use the driver and 6 iron
• Conduct ball striking tests with these clubs 4 strikes each weight, from no weight to 40g or maybe 60g in 10g increments. The data will tell which weight is best
Conclusions for counter-weighting
• Certain golfers see improvement in ball striking:
– Swing speed, ball speed and distance increase
– Better swing path, contact quality, distance control, direction and feel
– 30% increase distance 70% direction and distance control
– Counter-weighting changes swing weight, but not golf club MOI as seen from the club handle.
Now we are into Optimal Weighting. Here’s that story:
• Since 2004 when golf club counter weighting was demonstrated to help golfers hit it longer and straighter, the success rate on longer has been 30 percent and straighter, 70 percent. Over this period club fitters used counter weighting as a final step in the fitting after determining for each golfer the best weight, length, face angle, lie angle, shaft flex and profiling and so on for their golf clubs.
• We have transitioned from partial success with counter-weighting to almost total success with Optimal Weighting Technology.
• What do we know about golf club Optimal Weighting Technology? Optimal weighting technology is the optimization of golf club total weight and balance point for each individual golfer’s swing mechanics!
• Recently the success rate for both distance and direction improvement has increased dramatically with the use of a new Tour Lock product called the Opti-Vibe Power Weight. Distance and direction improvement for almost all golfers is being observed, and this product even works on a golfers existing equipment.
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