charnockpro
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- Aug 25, 2005
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Im glad you took a look at a pitcher - now if you look back at a golfer from the front on position you will see that the golfer's right arm also does NOT straighten until after the ball is gone also. - You just proved my point for me in their similarities - thank you.
my original point was that focusing on straightening your right arm i have found to be far more beneficial for more golfers than trying to keep ones right elbow connected to the body - the elbow bending will happen naturally as an effect of the extension.
Really, you need to get your syntax right, it seems on one hand you are saying I am right and then again trying to prove the right arm straightening, so please take me through your explanation of the downswing sequence, from the top of the swing downwards
your taking a huge assumption here - i dont know why you making this personal? all i am talking about is the concept of extension being more useful than the concept of a connected right elbow for a player. (which happens if extension is taking place)
It is commonplace in todays teaching that the golf swing goes wide to narrow and then wide AFTER the ball
in this thread i have stated what i have observed thru my experiences, and gone out of my way to give different explanations to help you understand a viewpoint - not agree with me mind you, just understand where i'm coming from. and this gets you to start assuming you now where im going to go with the discussion? and what i believe in, and whats in my book that you may or may not have read???
Mental things are NOT observable? you couldn't pick up on Tom Watson's mental collapse at that last putt on the 72nd green during the same Open? or how about most of Greg Normans career! this is an entirely different topic lets not start.
You can surmise what players are thinking, but they only truly know what their thought processes are and unless they verbalise them to the press and public all we can do is second guess.
i apologized in my last response that i was having problem multi quoting it and now as i look back at the weightlifting analogy a few sentences got cut out prior to what was posted -
again a pretty bold and inaccurate assumption here on your part. in fact, question my findings - please! but allow me the courtesy to respond in a manner that explains my viewpoint. agree or disagree with it, i dont shoot down, cause quite frankly, once i've explained my approach i dont care what you do with it cause i know full well that ive done my part to explain it. thats where the responsibility lies- in explaining and sharing ones findings. i feel that i've done that here and you decided to attack me - so be it. i have no desire to change the world, or push a system or teach one system like you elude to -
good luck and be well
Michael
I have no desire to change the world either but this is a place for active discussion, I was only verbalising my thoughts on the subject but it seems opinions and free speech are not allowed??
Listen you are a big guy and I am sure you have been challenged many times on your beliefs and will be again in the future, please take a look from the other side of the coin and know that people have other ideas and will challenge research from time to time, don't be offended, I am not here to prove myself, It was an active debate but you have seen fit to bow out.
my original point was that focusing on straightening your right arm i have found to be far more beneficial for more golfers than trying to keep ones right elbow connected to the body - the elbow bending will happen naturally as an effect of the extension.
Really, you need to get your syntax right, it seems on one hand you are saying I am right and then again trying to prove the right arm straightening, so please take me through your explanation of the downswing sequence, from the top of the swing downwards
your taking a huge assumption here - i dont know why you making this personal? all i am talking about is the concept of extension being more useful than the concept of a connected right elbow for a player. (which happens if extension is taking place)
It is commonplace in todays teaching that the golf swing goes wide to narrow and then wide AFTER the ball
in this thread i have stated what i have observed thru my experiences, and gone out of my way to give different explanations to help you understand a viewpoint - not agree with me mind you, just understand where i'm coming from. and this gets you to start assuming you now where im going to go with the discussion? and what i believe in, and whats in my book that you may or may not have read???
Mental things are NOT observable? you couldn't pick up on Tom Watson's mental collapse at that last putt on the 72nd green during the same Open? or how about most of Greg Normans career! this is an entirely different topic lets not start.
You can surmise what players are thinking, but they only truly know what their thought processes are and unless they verbalise them to the press and public all we can do is second guess.
i apologized in my last response that i was having problem multi quoting it and now as i look back at the weightlifting analogy a few sentences got cut out prior to what was posted -
again a pretty bold and inaccurate assumption here on your part. in fact, question my findings - please! but allow me the courtesy to respond in a manner that explains my viewpoint. agree or disagree with it, i dont shoot down, cause quite frankly, once i've explained my approach i dont care what you do with it cause i know full well that ive done my part to explain it. thats where the responsibility lies- in explaining and sharing ones findings. i feel that i've done that here and you decided to attack me - so be it. i have no desire to change the world, or push a system or teach one system like you elude to -
good luck and be well
Michael
I have no desire to change the world either but this is a place for active discussion, I was only verbalising my thoughts on the subject but it seems opinions and free speech are not allowed??
Listen you are a big guy and I am sure you have been challenged many times on your beliefs and will be again in the future, please take a look from the other side of the coin and know that people have other ideas and will challenge research from time to time, don't be offended, I am not here to prove myself, It was an active debate but you have seen fit to bow out.