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I certainly see your logic and I'm not trying to be a troll. I just respectfully disagree.
I feel like the added distance puts enough pressure on your game to add a stroke every 2 to 3 holes. Don't tell me you can get up and down as often as you 2 putt. When you miss greens you deal with funky lies in the deep rough and sand. On the green you always have a clean lie. It might not make a difference every hole but it will catch up to you.
Also, who says you can get it near the green with a fairway wood/hybrid/long iron every time without going OB, in a hazard or some kind of serious trouble.
I invite you guys to go play from the front/red tee boxes sometime. Then step back to the tips. Be honest with us and post your scores.
Believe me man I can shoot a 42 on just about any 9 and I can do it a thousand different ways.
Unless you are changing the length of the course by ALOT, moving up one set of tees isn't going to change your score that much.
so you go from playing a hole at 300 to playing one at 360. Most weekend hacks will hit driver, slice it right. Hit their next shot wide or pulled and are now facing a 10-30 yd chip for their 3rd. Sound right?You're right, a guy would hardly notice a difference in scores if he just moved up in small increments. That's why sometimes the course ratings for each tee might only change a point or two.
*I just pulled a scorecard out of my desk and the difference in the course rating from the white tees to black is 6 stokes. It's a 1079 yard difference...59.9 yards per/hole avg.
exactly my point. Moving up a tee box or 2 doesn't make you better at course management.Your example of 300 yards is short and I think the difference would be minimal. What if the hole is 400 yards from the whites? The approach shot for the average golfer would probably be 150 yards...but from the blues it would be 210 yards. A 7 iron is a lot less likely to go OB than a fairway wood, on average.
IDK, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.
For me anyways 210 is not a wood. Depending on lie, wind, etc... it'd be anywhere from a 6i to a 3i. I can hook a 7i with the best of them and I hit a 7i long enough to get into trouble should that hook rear it's ugly head. Perhaps this means I need to get better with irons... especially mid - short irons because what I get from what you're saying is that I should definately hit more greens with an 8i than I should with a 5i.Your example of 300 yards is short and I think the difference would be minimal. What if the hole is 400 yards from the whites? The approach shot for the average golfer would probably be 150 yards...but from the blues it would be 210 yards. A 7 iron is a lot less likely to go OB than a fairway wood, on average.
IDK, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.
Your example of 300 yards is short and I think the difference would be minimal. What if the hole is 400 yards from the whites? The approach shot for the average golfer would probably be 150 yards...but from the blues it would be 210 yards. A 7 iron is a lot less likely to go OB than a fairway wood, on average.
IDK, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.
Way too deep for me man.Also, keep in mind while the average yardage increase would be 59 yds it would likely be less than that per hole depending on the par. For example if there are 4 par 5's and they each add 100 yds per hold going back to the next set of tees, well then there is only 600 yds for the remaining 14 holes. Roughly 42 yds per hole, so going from 400 to 440.
For me anyways 210 is not a wood. Depending on lie, wind, etc... it'd be anywhere from a 6i to a 3i. I can hook a 7i with the best of them and I hit a 7i long enough to get into trouble should that hook rear it's ugly head. Perhaps this means I need to get better with irons... especially mid - short irons because what I get from what you're saying is that I should definately hit more greens with an 8i than I should with a 5i.
This depends on the event. Most club tournaments and local events are played from the whites. Higher level tournaments go back to the blues and championships may get the tips, but not all the time. For example, next weekend I'm playing a "major" event limited to hdcps under 10 and I believe we are using a blue/black combo.I only play from the tips because it provides the most challenge, and if I were to play in an organized event I was under the impression that you're forced to play from them.
As for the "I paid for the course, I'm going to play the whole thing" concept... when I played Pebble Beach, you know damn well I played from the pro tees.