rolltherock
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- Dec 9, 2008
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Hello all I'm new here and just posting today for the first time. I'm curious how many people actually knew there were driver heads with open face angles....not just what is stamped on the head, but what they actually play to.
I have stuck with my TM R540 for the past 6 years b/c there is no way I can play one of the garden variety hook faces that come on most of the drivers today. I have been keenly aware of this every since my college coach taught me about it even back in the persimmon wood days(yes I'm old)!
When TM came out with the TP versions and claimed to be square I still wasn't convinced. Case in point, I took the 4 Burner TP drivers they had at GolfSmith off the rack and had the club builder measure the face angles last year and had variations from .4* closed to .2* open, and TM claims they are 1* open. So I chose not to spend the 400.
I was picking up some grips from GolfSmith about 6 weeks ago and saw the Cleveland XLS Tour...had heard of it, but I don't know that Cleveland spends as much on advertishing in the driver market. Once again I had the tech put 4 of the Tour models on his little machine and true to form the face angles were all 2* open with one being 2.1*(I bought this one).
Let's just say I'm ecstatic. After having the shaft cut down to 44.5" and reweighted inside the head to match the factory swing weight....I have completely alleviated the left side of the course off the tee and actually picked up significant distance over my R540 which was a nice bonus.
I know from computer analysis that I hit the ball on average at 2.1* inside so hitting the ball left isn't difficult. For those that are attacking the ball inside and want to make the course twice as big.....do yourself a favor and mabe take a look at the Cleveland XLS Tour models!
On the same token, I think we would all be shocked to see the lack of quality control we are getting for these 'magic drivers' that are not even what they are advertised to be. How many people are paying top dollar for a TP head thinking it's open when they have one '.4*' closed? For those that don't think a single degree has much to do with accuracy on a driver go spend some time on a launch monitor The difference between good drives and poor drives is typically 2 degrees. When my swing would reach 3* inside I would pull the ball 20 yards off line......2* was a 5 yard draw.
And not to knock TM b/c I love their products by and large. I have been loving my RAC LT's for 5 years and the putter as well. I literally love my irons to death and my putter more. I have no idea why the driver quality control is so poor for them. My irons are square as square can be....and the lofts are dead nuts on as well.
I have stuck with my TM R540 for the past 6 years b/c there is no way I can play one of the garden variety hook faces that come on most of the drivers today. I have been keenly aware of this every since my college coach taught me about it even back in the persimmon wood days(yes I'm old)!
When TM came out with the TP versions and claimed to be square I still wasn't convinced. Case in point, I took the 4 Burner TP drivers they had at GolfSmith off the rack and had the club builder measure the face angles last year and had variations from .4* closed to .2* open, and TM claims they are 1* open. So I chose not to spend the 400.
I was picking up some grips from GolfSmith about 6 weeks ago and saw the Cleveland XLS Tour...had heard of it, but I don't know that Cleveland spends as much on advertishing in the driver market. Once again I had the tech put 4 of the Tour models on his little machine and true to form the face angles were all 2* open with one being 2.1*(I bought this one).
Let's just say I'm ecstatic. After having the shaft cut down to 44.5" and reweighted inside the head to match the factory swing weight....I have completely alleviated the left side of the course off the tee and actually picked up significant distance over my R540 which was a nice bonus.
I know from computer analysis that I hit the ball on average at 2.1* inside so hitting the ball left isn't difficult. For those that are attacking the ball inside and want to make the course twice as big.....do yourself a favor and mabe take a look at the Cleveland XLS Tour models!
On the same token, I think we would all be shocked to see the lack of quality control we are getting for these 'magic drivers' that are not even what they are advertised to be. How many people are paying top dollar for a TP head thinking it's open when they have one '.4*' closed? For those that don't think a single degree has much to do with accuracy on a driver go spend some time on a launch monitor The difference between good drives and poor drives is typically 2 degrees. When my swing would reach 3* inside I would pull the ball 20 yards off line......2* was a 5 yard draw.
And not to knock TM b/c I love their products by and large. I have been loving my RAC LT's for 5 years and the putter as well. I literally love my irons to death and my putter more. I have no idea why the driver quality control is so poor for them. My irons are square as square can be....and the lofts are dead nuts on as well.