I read with interest another forum with some amazing claims of gains in club head speed by swinging a 6 lb. bar. Some posts:
"I went down to the 6lb'r, same length and size as a driver and easier to control, went home afterwards to swing the driver to keep loose and not tighten up when the driver felt like a feather and could swing it like it was nothing. Went on a launch monitor and picked up 4mph. Not bad for a start. It took me a couple of weeks to do this but I feel if I can keep up with this it could only get better right."
"I have been using one for about 5 month after reading the initial post. I started out with a 95mph club head speed and I am now 127mph with ball speeds of 165+mph."
After reading all of this, I ordered a weighted club with training system called SpeedSwing.
A guy on golfwrx uses it and recommends it very highly. He is an LDA competitor and seems like a very nice guy. If you want to see his posts or ask him any questions about how he trains, I think he would answer. His handle there is idrive400yds.
Anyway,when the device came, I thought it was pretty nice. About a 2 ft. long threaded shaft with a golf grip on it. I understand you can get either a training grip or a standard grip, I chose standard. Included were weight sets 2 2 lb weights and 2 1 lb weights. They thread onto the shaft and there is a "safety cap" to keep them from spinning off. He also sent a dvd with a training program and the same thing in written instructions.
Being an eager dummy, I immediately put ALL 6 lbs on it and swung it one time, very slowly. This ain't like a heavy Momentus. I have one, and with the 6 lbs on it, a Momentus feels like a feather.
I have been on a TM MAT-T system at PGA Village in Florida recently. I'm using that data as my baseline.
My average for the session was mid 90's, with a low of 89.6 . I figure I'm a good guinea pig, I believe mid 90s is about as average as they come.
A couple observations. The Swingspeed really helps in a couple of areas:
1. Plane- you will not be able to swing this off-plane. It's just too heavy for that.
2. Flipping- the weight, coupled with the drill instructions if you follow them, are another way and I might add very effective way to make you feel how to stop flipping. I have struggled with flipping, or more accurately hoisting (never a full flip, but a slightly cupped left wrist, coupled with a block) for a long time. This really ingrains a flat left wrist.
3. Pivot- you have to make a strong pivot. It's too heavy to muscle very well.
So, Frank Viola, a noted clubfitter suggested a Swing Speed Radar to measure club head speed. I bought a Speed + Tempo unit from Tim at MyOstrichgolf. As an aside, these boards are great for discounts on stuff we want. idrive400yards gave me a very nice discount on the SwingSpeed workout stuff, now Tim hooked me up with a discount on the Radar device.
Anyway, today after 3 weeks of doing the drills on the DVD that came with the SwingSpeed, I went to the range to monitor my results. I knew something was up when I was seeing mid-90s with my 6 iron during warmup. I don't what my 6 iron speed was before, but my driver was mid-90s (sometimes low 90s) three weeks earlier.
Then the driver- first swing- good contact 104! I then made a few swings that were NOT pretty- 98 and 100. Now, I'm pretty enthused- what happens if I swing OUT OF MY SHOES??? Take a couple big cuts- 104-107, but bad contact. Excitement is over, just normal swings. They stay from 101-105. Average is about 103 over 25-30 swings. That's about 8-9 mph in 3 weeks.
I don't know what to expect, will I stay there? Will I gain more speed? I don't know, but my goal was to gain 5 mph in a few months, and I'm past that.
I love this device and training program!
Is anyone else usin Swingspeed or another speed training device life Speed Chain?
I'd love to hear your results and maybe find out what I should expect going forward.
"I went down to the 6lb'r, same length and size as a driver and easier to control, went home afterwards to swing the driver to keep loose and not tighten up when the driver felt like a feather and could swing it like it was nothing. Went on a launch monitor and picked up 4mph. Not bad for a start. It took me a couple of weeks to do this but I feel if I can keep up with this it could only get better right."
"I have been using one for about 5 month after reading the initial post. I started out with a 95mph club head speed and I am now 127mph with ball speeds of 165+mph."
After reading all of this, I ordered a weighted club with training system called SpeedSwing.
A guy on golfwrx uses it and recommends it very highly. He is an LDA competitor and seems like a very nice guy. If you want to see his posts or ask him any questions about how he trains, I think he would answer. His handle there is idrive400yds.
Anyway,when the device came, I thought it was pretty nice. About a 2 ft. long threaded shaft with a golf grip on it. I understand you can get either a training grip or a standard grip, I chose standard. Included were weight sets 2 2 lb weights and 2 1 lb weights. They thread onto the shaft and there is a "safety cap" to keep them from spinning off. He also sent a dvd with a training program and the same thing in written instructions.
Being an eager dummy, I immediately put ALL 6 lbs on it and swung it one time, very slowly. This ain't like a heavy Momentus. I have one, and with the 6 lbs on it, a Momentus feels like a feather.
I have been on a TM MAT-T system at PGA Village in Florida recently. I'm using that data as my baseline.
My average for the session was mid 90's, with a low of 89.6 . I figure I'm a good guinea pig, I believe mid 90s is about as average as they come.
A couple observations. The Swingspeed really helps in a couple of areas:
1. Plane- you will not be able to swing this off-plane. It's just too heavy for that.
2. Flipping- the weight, coupled with the drill instructions if you follow them, are another way and I might add very effective way to make you feel how to stop flipping. I have struggled with flipping, or more accurately hoisting (never a full flip, but a slightly cupped left wrist, coupled with a block) for a long time. This really ingrains a flat left wrist.
3. Pivot- you have to make a strong pivot. It's too heavy to muscle very well.
So, Frank Viola, a noted clubfitter suggested a Swing Speed Radar to measure club head speed. I bought a Speed + Tempo unit from Tim at MyOstrichgolf. As an aside, these boards are great for discounts on stuff we want. idrive400yards gave me a very nice discount on the SwingSpeed workout stuff, now Tim hooked me up with a discount on the Radar device.
Anyway, today after 3 weeks of doing the drills on the DVD that came with the SwingSpeed, I went to the range to monitor my results. I knew something was up when I was seeing mid-90s with my 6 iron during warmup. I don't what my 6 iron speed was before, but my driver was mid-90s (sometimes low 90s) three weeks earlier.
Then the driver- first swing- good contact 104! I then made a few swings that were NOT pretty- 98 and 100. Now, I'm pretty enthused- what happens if I swing OUT OF MY SHOES??? Take a couple big cuts- 104-107, but bad contact. Excitement is over, just normal swings. They stay from 101-105. Average is about 103 over 25-30 swings. That's about 8-9 mph in 3 weeks.
I don't know what to expect, will I stay there? Will I gain more speed? I don't know, but my goal was to gain 5 mph in a few months, and I'm past that.
I love this device and training program!
Is anyone else usin Swingspeed or another speed training device life Speed Chain?
I'd love to hear your results and maybe find out what I should expect going forward.
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