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Separate PW

Benguk

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I was wonedering how many of you have a separate Pitching Wedge than what came with the iron sets. I sort of want to get a new vokey Pw to replace the PW that came with my irons. Is there a loss of distance because of the different design, or is it similar? Whats the deal? :smilie_ti they dont have a nike smiley
 

SilverUberXeno

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Pitching is pretty different for an individual, but I've heard good things about them. I can't imagine a vokey would give you LESS distance than what you're using right now. Bring your PW to the store that you wanna buy the vokey from and try them both
 

ualtim

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It all depends on the loft angle. Most PW's in modern sets are in the 46 to 48 degree range which is a lot stronger than even 10-15 years ago. Even though you have a "P" or "PW" on the bottom of the club, the loft can vary widely even within a single manufacturer's line up. I have seen lofts on PW from 45 to 50 degrees in modern clubs, and even higher lofts in older clubs. If you replace your strong loft PW with a 50 degree PW, there will very likely be a distance difference. As long as you replace your PW with a similarly lofted PW, your distance should be close. There are other factors that would change the distance (such as shaft length), but loft is the most common factor in a distance change.
 

Justice76

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Can you explain the applications of the degrees 48 52 56 60 I am still lost which one does what. I have a 48. Was thinking of adding another
 

ualtim

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The 48 degree is the modern pitching wedge. Think of it as more of a 10 iron. Just another club to fill in the yardage gap.

The 52 degree is what is now called a Gap Wedge (Some companies call it an Attack Wedge) which is used to fill the distance gap between the modern pitching wedge and the sand wedge. As this is more along the lines of a traditional pitching wedge, a lot of folks use it as the primary club for chipping, pitching, and other close in shots around the green. If you are a Dave Pelz fan, it is also used for the partial wedge and cut wedge shots from inside 100 yards.

The 56 degree is your classic Sand Wedge. Usually it will have more bounce than your other wedges for use out of soft sand bunkers and tall grass.

The 60 degree is the modern Lob Wedge. Think Phil Mickelson. Primarily used for flop shops around the green when you are looking for little to no roll when it lands. Great for flop/pitch shots into tight pin locations or pitches on to very fast greens.


That being said, there is no correct club for any given shot. There are many ways to hit the same shot, and if you are carrying 4 wedges you have even more options. Once you determine your lie and desired shot landing area, you then have options to think about. Tight lies, thin lies, hard pan, wet or hard sand, or a shot requiring more run you are probably going to end up using a lower bounce wedge such as you 48* or 52*. Soft sand, deep rough, or a shot requiring little to no run you would probably look to your stronger bounced clubs such as your 56* or 60*. Spend some time practicing your short game and you will learn the difference between the clubs and come to appreciate each one's advantages.
 

Justice76

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Thanks so much that is what I was looking for I was lost of the job of each or its desired job.
 
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Benguk

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51,52,53*

most companies call it a gap wedge or approach wedge, i have never heard of attack wedge before
 

ualtim

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Benguk said:
most companies call it a gap wedge or approach wedge, i have never heard of attack wedge before

I had never the heard it either until I was playing with a friend and he referred to his as an attack wedge. I do not recall what brand his wedge was, but that is what the manufacturer referred to it as. Additional, another friend has a Hogan gap wedge with an "E" on the sole. I have no idea what Hogan calls it, but it is a gap wedge loft.
 

Bravo

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Benguk said:
I was wonedering how many of you have a separate Pitching Wedge than what came with the iron sets. I sort of want to get a new vokey Pw to replace the PW that came with my irons. Is there a loss of distance because of the different design, or is it similar? Whats the deal? :smilie_ti they dont have a nike smiley

Just to reply to your original question...I'll bet 80% of the posters here have between 1-3 wedges that were not included in their iron-set. The vast majority of serious golfers today spend quite a bit of time and money finding additional wedges.

I have Titleist DCI irons. My PW is a 48* which matches the other clubs.

My gap wedge is a Cleveland 900 54* low bounce.

My sand wedge is a Wilson 60* high bounce.

If anyone is interested in seeing an excellent discussion of wedges and their uses...it can be found here..

http://www.clevelandgolf.com/proshop/wedges/chrome.php

Click on the orange link called 'Wedge Selection System'.
 

JScope

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Gap Wedges

Hi,

I'm new here, and thought I'd chime in -

I've been playing the game for a while now - about 25 years, and I guess you could say I'm a slow learner :hunter: , but I can't believe it's taken me so long to put a 52* wedge in my bag. I play to a 13 handicap, and am a fair ball striker.

Forever, I've carried my standard wedge (I think 46* ) and my Staff 56* sand wedge. When I bought my new set of Clevelands, I decided to add a couple of the CG10s - a 52* Gap with standard bounce and a 54* sand wedge with heavy bounce.. And WOW, that 52 is being used a lot! No more 3/4 swings at 70-85 yards out - and waddaya know - I'm out 70-80 yards quite a bit...duh.

It's nice to have the confidence to take that full swing, and remove some of the guess work. I'm slow, but I catch on eventually.

Take care,
Jim
 

GregInOz

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ualtim said:
, another friend has a Hogan gap wedge with an "E" on the sole. I have no idea what Hogan calls it, but it is a gap wedge loft.

The 'E' on the Hogan wedge stands for 'equaliser'. Back when irons were sets of 1-9, the pitching wedge was considered a specialty club. It fitted between the 9 iron (about 46 deg) and sand wege (55*) to 'equalise' the gap (sound familiar?).
Now Hogan has E stamped on the bottom of its pitching wedges which come with their iron sets (46-48 deg) and produces separate gap wedges (50-52 deg). Go figure.
 

Matty

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I gotta 52 degree wilson staff wedge & i have not used my PW in a while now, dont know why, just always made the shot with the wilson.
 

SilverUberXeno

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I find it difficult to use my pitching wedge close to the green now. Occasionally I will if I need some roll, but otherwise I like using it from between 55 and 100 yards out. My lob wedge isn't getting a whole lot of use either, because I seem to be hitting it inconsistently (sometimes I'll spin it like the dickens, sometimes it won't spin at all). Sand wedge all the way, usually.
 
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