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The Blade Session-Phase 1

Rockford35

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Well, here are my findings.

This morning, i took out both a Mp-33 Mizuno 6 iron, S300 DG shaft and Tour Velvet grip, and a MX-23 6 iron, S300 DG with a Tour Velvet grip.

Mp-33

Small topline in comparison to my X-16 Pros. Very small clubface as well. I expected this. After about 4 balls i found myself in the zone. I kept a towel handy to wipe off any ball marks off the face so i could track my ball positioning off the face. I was feeling it today. The club reacts as it needs to. It also provides great distance. I was easily hitting 180-185 with my 6 iron. I'm 170 tops with my X-16.
The head is heavy, the club almosy swings itself. But, i found that if you weren't perfect with your plane, it followed your lead and then some. You have to man up and show these clubs who's boss or you're dead. But when you do, just watch that sweet 3 yard draw tuck in close.
Off center hits were less than desired. Not so much for trajectory, but for distance. If you heeled or toed a ball a centimeter outside the sweet spot (which is about the size of a dime), you feel it and see the results. Any mi**** was 30 yards short. I tried thinning a fews shots, this is definitely not what you want to do with these irons. Zero distance.
Overall, i enjoyed these. They felt great, and really made me concentrate on my game. I like that. Honestly, i like the idea of a little more forgiveness in my irons, but i can honestly say that going back to my X-16's made me look like a pro. Wow. You really have the sweet spot dialed after hitting about 30 balls with that iron. The best training tool out there for the mid to low handicapper.

MX-23

Thicker topline than the 33's. Felt just as heavy as the 33's as well. For some reason this 6 iron was a quarter inch shorter than the other. Go figure. Same shaft and grip setup.
These clubs have a larger sweet spot, and i found it was lower to the leading edge than that of the 33's. And don't hit this club fat. I tried to power one out with a big pelt, zero feel and it really carves. But when you pure one, it goes. Average distance, 155-160. Not as far as the 33's, but it sure felt nice off the face.


Conclusions?

I dunno. I'm sold on the feel, but not the exactness required for my staunchy needs. I require perfection of myself, and i think these clubs would starve me to death as i would be using grocery money at the range to pure these things in. After hitting about 60 balls between the two, i grabbed my X16 6 iron and felt as tho I could have landed it in a tea cup at 165. It was just that easy.

Now, stick with the X-16's and buy a MP33 7 iron to practice with? :D
Or, get some MP33's and learn, baby, learn. I think the learning curve would be a long one, not so steep, but very trying. I think alot of swear words would come out, like the F-bomb and the two c-words. Ya, that bad. But, i think i'd love them to death.

The 1500 dollar price tag also is lame. X-16's retail at about 1100CDN, but shops sell them at 900. So, stepping up to a set that would cost nearly triple what i paid for my 'experienced' X16's, i don't know if i could be bothered. That's alot of rounds of golf that make up the difference.

I have an idea. Everyone put a pot together and buy my a set of MP-33's. Then, i'll come down south and use them with you guys.

I think that's fair, no? :eek:

Blades. Love them or hate them, i haven't decided. Maybe if i hadn't hit them so well, i would have liked them. :sobbash:

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DaveE

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Sounds like you just have to talk yourself into waiting a couple weeks and the whole thing will pass. If your hitting your X-16s that well why screw with it. Of course I'm still partial to the 23s. Nice pic. But you are correct about don't hit them fat. :golf:

That price tag is brutal. Just so you know Golfsmith has a set of used 33s on their site for $549.00 US.
 

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Well Rock,

It seems to me that you have gone about it the right way. You've demoed and compared and drawn your own conclusion that you would be happier with your X-16s - good for you!

But I have a feeling that this is not the end of your blades experience - in fact, I think that when Callaway design a set of irons for Phil (that will be very blade-like) you'll have those in the bag pronto!

:smilie_ca
 
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grazo said:
It seems to me that you have gone about it the right way. You've demoed and compared and drawn your own conclusion that you would be happier with your X-16s - good for you!

But I have a feeling that this is not the end of your blades experience - in fact, I think that when Callaway design a set of irons for Phil (that will be very blade-like) you'll have those in the bag pronto!


I dunno Graz,

We'll have to see what comes of the Callaway Blades if they look anything like the ERC Fusion irons, you all can join me in simulatneous vomit. :repuke:

I liked the Mizunos, alot, actually. If they were both cheaper and I was better, i'd buy a set. I did find the 23's much more forgiving, about the same as my X16's. But the 33's, that's another story. Apparently the 33's are being discontinued, so we'll see what happens next. Maybe i can Ebay up a set over the winter months.

One man's trash is another man's treasure.

I'd like to hit the CG1's, but i doubt any shop here will carry them. There's not much of a need for blades around these parts. The shop i borrowed the demo set from has sold a total of three sets in 4 years. Brutal. There are alot of good golfers around, but i think it's their equipment that makes them good.

Myself included. No lie. I play ok, but alot of that has to do with the equipment. I think alot of people out there benefit from equipment. Take an old driver and try and pure it as easily as your current one. It's pretty safe to say they are night and day.

I used to have this old blade 9 iron from about 1968. It was starting to rust and had dings, but boy could i hammer that thing, and with control. I left it at the cabin one year over the winter and bought a new set of irons and forgot about it.

I wonder where that damn thing is....

Blades. Love them and hate them. Kinda like creamed corn.

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buddha33

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rockford35 said:
Now, stick with the X-16's and buy a MP33 7 iron to practice with?

This may have been said in jest, but I think you're on to something here. I'd sift through ebay and see if you can't find a cheap used 7-iron to practice with. That way you can spend time dialing it in until you're comfortable with its forgiveness (or lack thereof).

Dave brought up a good point too; wait a couple of weeks until the fever runs its course. I know I get into periods of "I wanna buy" for things I don't really need. If I give it some time, I usually find it was just a craze that quickly goes away.

Where's the Cleveland smiley guy, dammit?!?!?
 
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Buddha,

I was dead serious when i mentioned buying a blade to pratice with. I already surfed through E-bay and found a few. I've e-mailed a few guys about shipping.

It's such a good idea. I was hammering towering iron shots with the X-16's after hitting that damn MP-33, it was scary.

PS....I just got home from Red Lobster.....the boys took me there for my birthday, however somewhat belated.....i ate 110 shrimp.....my record is 170....my friends is 206......then he went to volleyball practice.... :D

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Rock

I had the same dilemma. I went from Macgregor blades to Mizuno TZoids a few years ago. I used to play a lot of college golf (back in the good old days) but when work set in, coupled with marriage and kids, I wasn't getting time to play enough. The irons became harder to hit right. So I switched to Minzunos. They are forged, a step up from pure blades, but they look similar when you set them up. They are also from a few years ago so you can get them cheap. Check them on on the reviews of GR. Some nice comments.

I've subsequently gone onto a clone of the Nike progressive. They are blades 8-PW, and progressively perimeter weighted from 7 down to 3. Nice to hit and very good value.

I agree with practicing with a blade. I sometime take out my old Macgregors, just to see if I can find the sweet spot. When I get back to the other irons, they are a lot easier to hit.

What I find with Callaways is that it is hard to work with them and a lack of feel. Hitting low shots, fades, draws is tough as the club is designed to iron out all that. Dunno if that is a problem for most, but I like a bit more workability and the feeling that the ball has come off the sweet spot.

Good post though. I glad someone spends the time to find out these things and share them. Sounds like you rewarded yourself admirably at the RL. :thumbup:
 

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IrishGolfer said:
Rock

I had the same dilemma. I went from Macgregor blades to Mizuno TZoids a few years ago. I used to play a lot of college golf (back in the good old days) but when work set in, coupled with marriage and kids, I wasn't getting time to play enough. The irons became harder to hit right. So I switched to Minzunos. They are forged, a step up from pure blades, but they look similar when you set them up. They are also from a few years ago so you can get them cheap. Check them on on the reviews of GR. Some nice comments.

I've subsequently gone onto a clone of the Nike progressive. They are blades 8-PW, and progressively perimeter weighted from 7 down to 3. Nice to hit and very good value.

I agree with practicing with a blade. I sometime take out my old Macgregors, just to see if I can find the sweet spot. When I get back to the other irons, they are a lot easier to hit.

What I find with Callaways is that it is hard to work with them and a lack of feel. Hitting low shots, fades, draws is tough as the club is designed to iron out all that. Dunno if that is a problem for most, but I like a bit more workability and the feeling that the ball has come off the sweet spot.

Good post though. I glad someone spends the time to find out these things and share them. Sounds like you rewarded yourself admirably at the RL. :thumbup:
Hey, IG... Your Nike clones are probably cast? Can you tell much difference in feel from the forged musclebacks? T'anks, brudda...
 

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Hey, IG... Your Nike clones are probably cast? Can you tell much difference in feel from the forged musclebacks? T'anks, brudda...

Believe it or not the clones are forged. I came to that conclusion becasue it says FORGED on the hosel of each club. I've had a few scratch men try them out / hit shots with them and their comments only confirm my belief that 95% of the golfing public are overpaying BIG TIME for their equipment.

I got my babies from www.monarkgolf.com I'm not on any % here but I was impressed with service, etc. They are the vSteels. Looks like the Progressives are now discontinued (maybe pending a legal threat from Nike). But the blades are still there.

I have never seem CAST blades. I think they only work for perimeter / cavity back clubs (may be wrong on that). I have hit casts and they lack a tad in the feel department. You can tweak them either.
 

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IrishGolfer said:
Believe it or not the clones are forged. I came to that conclusion becasue it says FORGED on the hosel of each club. I've had a few scratch men try them out / hit shots with them and their comments only confirm my belief that 95% of the golfing public are overpaying BIG TIME for their equipment.

I got my babies from www.monarkgolf.com I'm not on any % here but I was impressed with service, etc. They are the vSteels. Looks like the Progressives are now discontinued (maybe pending a legal threat from Nike). But the blades are still there.

I have never seem CAST blades. I think they only work for perimeter / cavity back clubs (may be wrong on that). I have hit casts and they lack a tad in the feel department. You can tweak them either.
Very nice. VSteel? Or VSeries?

Also, how are they on distance and direction?

Thanks, IG.
 

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Very nice. VSteel? Or VSeries?

Also, how are they on distance and direction?

Thanks, IG.

Mr. Crowe.

So you checked out the link?

Sorry you caught me in between sugar breaks. V Series. They are 1/2 a club shorter than my Zoids, but probably a bit easier to hit. The 9 iron and PW are sweet to hit though. I am keeping them a bit straighter, maybe just I'm beginning to play a bit more. ie better.
 

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Mr. Crowe.

So you checked out the link?

Sorry you caught me in between sugar breaks. V Series. They are 1/2 a club shorter than my Zoids, but probably a bit easier to hit. The 9 iron and PW are sweet to hit though. I am keeping them a bit straighter, maybe just I'm beginning to play a bit more. ie better.
A guy in my league built a set of those very irons. He seems to love him. Good find, bloke.
 

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What about these?

As long as you're still looking check out Mizunos latest. I'm not sure what "cut muscle" means but it sounds bad a$$. :028:
 
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DaveE said:
As long as you're still looking check out Mizunos latest. I'm not sure what "cut muscle" means but it sounds bad a$$. :028:


Cut muscle. That either means "a side of beef" or "ripped chest".

I'm hoping it means "Birdie/par/birdie". :D

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DaveE said:
As long as you're still looking check out Mizunos latest. I'm not sure what "cut muscle" means but it sounds bad a$$. :028:

Wow...that's pretty.
 

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