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Tiger...friend or foe?????

ualtim

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To be quite honest, I really don't care. Tiger is Tiger and Phil is Phil. I am never going to hang out with either one of them or play 18 with either one of them so why should it bother me how they behave?

Put a camera on anyone of us for four straight days at work and your likely going to hear and see a lot worse than what you hear out of tour pros.
 

rob0225

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To be quite honest, I really don't care. Tiger is Tiger and Phil is Phil. I am never going to hang out with either one of them or play 18 with either one of them so why should it bother me how they behave?

Put a camera on anyone of us for four straight days at work and your likely going to hear and see a lot worse than what you hear out of tour pros.

Heh! Put a camera on me for 4 days and you may not have anything you can air at the end of it. :)

Robert
 

ezra76

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I saw it, heard it, was a little taken aback but understand. It was a yardage they needed to get right and a shot that needed to be struck perfect. He was trying to hang a high fade in there with a SW or LW from what I saw. If he got it perfect it should have left an uphill, 90% makeable putt. It was a risk and he either had the yardage off or hung it too high with a little too much fade, wind knocked it down a bit instead of carrying it over the bunker. It was a situation requiring back to back birdies on a course that had the leader over par for the tourney. How many back to back birds were there all tournament? Not too many, if any I'd imagine. That shot ended the Masters, so I can understand him venting a little frustration. I know we all thought we might be seeing a comeback for the ages when he stuck that fade on the back ledge of 15, an amazing shot off that lie and possibly one of the best shots I saw all week. So going from the best iron shot all week and converting to get 2 back, to putting a pured 7iron in tight and missing, to just a near perfection drive and a relatively "easy" (meaning he'd already done the hard part of the comeback) shot/yardage and blowing it... I see where he's coming from with the spouting.
 

DaveE

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My first reaction when I heard it was to laugh because it was one of the few times I could relate to Tiger.

The look on his face said he thought he hit a great shot so I doubt it was a mishit. If he or Steve got the yardage wrong then his response is no worse than anything I would think or say.

And I agree with Rock. If I'm making $600k to be Tigers caddie he can vent his frustration on me whenever he wants. Not sure how I'd feel about the wedge in the ass though. :laugh:
 

LyleG

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A caddies job is to give accurate numbers, keep up, and shut up.

Tiger seems to have flushed the shot based on his reaction, this mean the yardage could have very well been wrong. In which case Steve deserved to get his ass reamed.
 

gwlee7

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Well to Stevie's credit, even if he missed the yardage, he didn't let Tiger tee off with too many clubs in the bag like Woosman's caddie did in the Open a few years back. Now that would have got me to cussing.
 

Bravo

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I don't dislike Tiger for being good and being famous. I dislike the media for turning him into some god and totally ignoring the rest of the tour. Maybe they'd just like for Tiger to play the tourneys all by himself.... :D

Brilliantly stated and if I was Tiger, I'd say to them- "why don't you go spend some time with the winner? I didn't get it done this week."

I'll bet that is the way he feels too. He's probably sick and tired of the excessive interviews after failing to win.

They have made him out to be a media God...its absurd.
 

LyleG

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Very true.

Anyone tuning in as Tiger walked up the 18th fairway would have sworn he had won. They didnt even flash to Zach when Tigers approach on 18 missed his mark making Zach the official winner. Instead we get to follow Tiger's walk. I would much rather have seen the Johnson family reaction.
 

Rockford35

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Very true.

Anyone tuning in as Tiger walked up the 18th fairway would have sworn he had won. They didnt even flash to Zach when Tigers approach on 18 missed his mark making Zach the official winner. Instead we get to follow Tiger's walk. I would much rather have seen the Johnson family reaction.

I so agree.

I also hated 2 hours of Tiger's post round interview of why he DIDN'T win. GC fell on their faces there.

R35
 

DaveE

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Brilliantly stated and if I was Tiger, I'd say to them- "why don't you go spend some time with the winner? I didn't get it done this week."

I'll bet that is the way he feels too. He's probably sick and tired of the excessive interviews after failing to win.

They have made him out to be a media God...its absurd.

Little doubt as to why he named his yaught Privacy.
 
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Interesting, I heard a whole different thing.

I heard this:

"honostly, what the hell just happend here!"
"That was/is dead down wind"

hm..

I know I did see Steve walking well ahead of tiger after the shot.
 

artfulgolfer

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Interesting... this thread is making Tiger the most talked about player at the Masters on this forum - just like the media is doing!

Congratulations Zack!
 

Bravo

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Interesting... this thread is making Tiger the most talked about player at the Masters on this forum - just like the media is doing!

Congratulations Zack!

Yes and all we saw from Zach Johnson was total composure in every way the entire time...
 

packerguy

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I have to disagree with those that said he was blaming his caddie also. I have it recorded on my computer and just listened to it a couple times and he says:

"what the hell happened.....honestly, what the hell just happened....DEAD downwind."

It just seems like people will find excuses to hate on other people which is kinda sad.
 

ezra76

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I distinctly heard "I thought you said downwind?" but whatever. The shot was off very, very bad to hit the middle of the bunker from 121. He went from one of the best shots I'd seen in the time I was watching (the fade into 15) to possible the worst (other than Ogilvy's drop/splash affair).
 

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