Wedge help.

[tomba26]

I understand the whole 'bounce' concept with wedges but I am in the process of upgrading mine and wondered if any of you have an opinion.
My current wedges are some of the very first Vokeys and are 56.12 and 60.06. The new wedges I am looking at are the Vokey Spin Milled (love the feel) and the specs are 56.14 and 60.08 (56.12 and 60.06 not available in Spin Mill).
I play on a course with very varied conditions with firm fairways some of the year and damp/spongy at others (U.K weather) and welcome the added bounce from sand in my 56 wedge but am a little concerned with the 60.08. Has anyone played a Vokey 60 wedge with this much bounce and if so what's it like when the sand is firm and also if you open the face up for a flop shot (I should point out I would only really play a flop from a semi-fluffy lie, never from a tight lie)? The other wedge available is a 60.04 but I am concerned that this has too little bounce angle as my local pro insists that 8 degrees is not that much bounce for a wedge.
Thanks guys.

 

[obagain]

I would prefer the 4 degree bounce. The 8 will give you trouble when you open it up. If you do your own custom gringing you can take down the heel and solve the issue (never grind your wedges if you do not know what you are doing, you can't fix what is no longer there).

 

[tomba26]

Thanks Obagain for the reply, I will take that into consideration.
Have you (or any other members) used a 56 wedge with 14 degrees bounce from the fairway with any problems? I never had any problems with my old wedge (12 degrees bounce) and I never open the face unless in a bunker so almost all shots would be played with a square face.

 

[obagain]

Again, 14 on a sw is pretty stout. If you were using it only out of bunkers it would be fine. If you are always square you will probably be ok but anything close to a bare lie will cause problems.

 

[tomba26]

Again, 14 on a sw is pretty stout. If you were using it only out of bunkers it would be fine. If you are always square you will probably be ok but anything close to a bare lie will cause problems.

Thanks again!

 

[bdcrowe]

My sand wedge has 14* bounce and it is usually fine. I won't use it off of hard-pan, of course, but then again, I have 13 other clubs and pretty decent imagination and feel. Golf isn't a game of, "I have X yardage, so I must use X club". If you need a wedge for soft sand, then you need a lot of bounce and the ability to hit a 3/4 or so pitching wedge.

I would personally need more info before making a recommendation. Most importantly would be to know the average sand you play in. Soft, or firm? Soft sand, and 14* of bounce isn't stout at all. Firm sand and less bounce is in order.

And, no matter the fairway, if you're hitting down on the ball, the wedge hits the ball first anyways.

 

[obagain]

He said he is in the UK and uses the wedge in a variety of ways, not just sand. Most uk courses will have firm to medium sand and the fairways will be short grass.

That is what I based my recommendation on. The 14 degree will work but your margin of error is smaller. The more the club bounces the less distance it will go, the face can get to the ball first but if the club bounces you will have a harder time with a full finish.

 

[bdcrowe]

I think you misunderstood. I wasn't questioning you. I was asking for particulars and offering another perspective. Since he has a low bounce 60* wedge (as I do) to hit out of hard to medium sand, and a 3/4 pitching wedge to hit off of hard lies, then a higher bounce sand wedge in the bag covers nicely for soft sand, fluffy lies, etc...

Just pointing out mutiple viewpoints; not conspiring.

Take care.

 

[obagain]

I didn't mean it to sound that way, just pointing out why I came to that conclusion not that I am right, just that I wasn't pulling it out of the air.

 

[bdcrowe]

We cool brudda.

 

[Youngun5]

whew, that got tense there for a sec.

 

[obagain]

Tense is $10 riding on a putt and having 35 cents in your pocket

These things happen on message boards, no blood no foul LOL.

 

[Silver]

Back to the wedges...just picked up a Vokey 258-08 and, while I quite like it, I'm finding it substantially more difficult to flop than my old Wilson Harmonized 60º. Catching it on the leading edge seems to be most common...do I just need to practice or do I need to grind some of that nasty old bounce off?

 

[obagain]

I think the harmonized had 4 degrees of bounce. You will get better with practice but it will never hit like the wilson.

If you grind the bounce too much you will make it too light and make the club useless.

 

[Silver]

wow, I had no idea the wilson was so low...too bad it was shit for giving spin...all types of balls would just release with that club compared to the spin from the Vokey on the same type of shot

it sure was easy to flop though