A few swings from the range

[ezra76]

I had my GF take some video this evening. Still getting too far past parallel, as usual. Hit everything solid but a few yanked drives. Starting with a high flying 3iron and ending with a few of those low trajectory, high spin wedges. One of these days I'll get the driver swing to look like the practice swing. Hitting the irons very well, compressing the hell out of them lately and dead center of the face. Although I'm not driving it well, should save these for the iron swings for future reference, by far the best stretch of iron striking ever for me lately.

swings508 - Putfile.com

 

[ezra76]

Here's a couple from Swingacademy if anyone wants to analyze them for me.

SwingAcademy.com

SwingAcademy.com

 

[MIKE1218]

I was about to ask you if they were going on swingacademy, then when I hit the preview button, I saw you had just posted them.

Sorry, I'm not a good analyzer. If you're hitting it solid I say that's good enough.

 

[VtDivot]

"A little past parallel" - LOL

My best advice John is to think swing and not hit. Looks to me like you are chopping down on it, casting and reqiuring good hand timing to pull it thru the finish in order to save it. Your athleticism allows you to do this

 

[ezra76]

I have been hitting at it a bit with the driver. Irons have been good though. Honestly, irons the last couple weeks, I'd bottle that striking and be satisfied with it for the rest of my life. Hitting 6irons 180 like it's a 100yd. SW. That's basically the reason I put up the Putfile vid, to show although the swing is messy, I'm striking the piss out of everything. I hit a 7i to a green that is about 165-170... green, flagstick, green, green, flagstick. It's nuts.

 

[mddubya]

Looks pretty good to me.

 

[charnockpro]

Ez, the usual problems surface for me when looking at your swing, namely the right arm position at the top of the backswing which forces the club across the line and long which then on the way down can only go one of two ways which is either flattening the shaft out to get back on plane, or as you do and steepen the shaft , no wonder you trap the irons and compress them out there long!!. The only problem i fear is that for all the analysis done you will not take notice and carry on your own way, this is fine, and if you are happy then why change?, but also dont eschew the analysis done, try and take some positives from it and work on them.

 

[ezra76]

Ez, the usual problems surface for me when looking at your swing, namely the right arm position at the top of the backswing which forces the club across the line and long which then on the way down can only go one of two ways which is either flattening the shaft out to get back on plane, or as you do and steepen the shaft , no wonder you trap the irons and compress them out there long!!. The only problem i fear is that for all the analysis done you will not take notice and carry on your own way, this is fine, and if you are happy then why change?, but also dont eschew the analysis done, try and take some positives from it and work on them.

It wasn't you was it? I just don't see an OTT move at all in the swing and feel that's incorrect. If I go by Hogan's "pane of glass" I don't see it coming out over it. Maybe I'm looking at it wrong?

I'd like to get some instruction around here but there is a lack of decent instructors it seems. The 1st one I went to wanted me to pull with my arms and the last lesson consisted of holding a shaft over my head for 20 minutes, money well spent. The 2nd guy seemed perplexed. Video lessons. He helped me a little with some drills for the right arm position but also basically said takeaway and impact postions were near perfection, don't mess with them. So essentially both instructors just want me to stop the swing before parallel and that's it. I can't do it, obvioiusly, or I would. I have been able to do the "faldo drill" with the driver and swing it from the top position, hitting it about 220-230. That's hinging up towards the chin, letting the right arm fold in, rotate to the top and then swing down from there.

 

[charnockpro]

Nope that wasnt me doing that analysis, my name on there is the same as it is here, it isnt an ott move it is more a steepening of the shaft that concerns me, and looking on wrx you have identified that there are good and very bad days, the reason i was a bit stern is i would like to see those bad days be less hurtful to your obvious love of the game.

There is no such word as cant!!, you have to train your muscles to feel the length of your golf swing, this will help you sequence the golf swing better, but until then it will be very in and out games of golf for you.

I had the problem of an overly long backswing, i worked constantly with camera work on the range and eventually reduced it to a shorter swing and a course record.

 

[ezra76]

I believe the steepening is a direct result of the disconnection. Basically the lower body is starting to go and the hands are so far up there, I'm playing catch up the whole time. When I hit a bad iron shot I find myself saying "clear GDamnit!". I do have a horrible fat shot, driving the clubhead into the ground occasionally. I also popped up a driver and a 3W last round. For the most part I've been missing pull and block though, not too many balls curving offline, which says something since the stuff I'm playing is pretty well max. workability. I must be getting square with the face and decent impact position, hands ahead. I don't feel any sort of hand manipulation at impact or after, just swinging left with my torso to release it. I've got a broken bone in my right wrist and occasionally it hurts like heck after impact, body pulling the release harder than I could ever think of turning the right over actively.

OK, that's enough. So what can I go do at the range to start to work on the swing? I can go there, hit 90% of my shots well, as usual, get bored, start hitting massive draws and cuts, drivers off the deck, ect. but it's not helping my swing at all. All I'm doing is getting my timing down, which is pretty temporary. I need some drills, something I can just maybe take a few clubs and do, commit to them.

 

[ezra76]

I got some stuff to work on from WRX and went to the range this morning. I used my swingyde and hit the ball very well. Hit drives right up the middle and felt a lot shorter swing. Then I decided to go play, big mistake. I started off OK but then started $hanking balls, bad. I did this about 8-10 times and shot 46 on the front (horrible ending after decent beginning) then 54 on the back. Ouch. I couldn't even hit a wedge, nevermind an iron. I'm sick of golf right now. My swing is a total mess and I can't even hit a ball with proper part of the GD club.

I think I'm just going to chip and putt for the next week or so. Let this get out of my system.

 

[charnockpro]

Don't get too down Ez, it is a slow process and will not happen overnight, your body will more than likely have reverted back to your old swings and maybe got stuck in between what you are working on.

The fat shots will have come from your bad shaft angles, whereby it is hard to manipulate from such a cramped position, it sounds to me like you are trying to nurture a oneplane release from a steeper two plane backswing position, i would suggest little steps often, i.e break your swing down from start to finish and get each part down before moving on, this will involve lots of camera work but will pay dividends overall in my opinion.

 

[ezra76]

Thanks for the vote of confidence. I'm going to start working on that 9-3 drill and work primarily on my takeaway and pivot for a while. I may also invest in a better camera. I can't really take anything from the course but at the range I was puring every shot. Not that I improved a ton but just those few small changes made a big difference. I know that whenever I work on anything with my game it take a little while to set in.

What strikes me is that I hit balls at my dad's house a few weeks ago in the backyard. Essentially what I was doing was that 9-3 drill, hitting a SW over the pool, 20-30yds.. I played like 3 days later and shot OK, nothing great but the next round was the 81. It took a week to kick in.

 

[Bump-N-Run]

Hey Ezra...

Good to see you posting vids again.

The guy who said you are OTT is a pretty darn good analyzer.

I wouldn't dismiss his theories without first picking his brain.

Also.. You gotta coach your girlfriend on where to stand with the camera.

Only one of the videos (DTL) has the camera in the right position.

 

[ezra76]

Hey Ezra...

Good to see you posting vids again.

The guy who said you are OTT is a pretty darn good analyzer.

I wouldn't dismiss his theories without first picking his brain.

Also.. You gotta coach your girlfriend on where to stand with the camera.

Only one of the videos (DTL) has the camera in the right position.

How's it going man? Yeah, I shouldn't have got bent out of shape, I just didn't think it was OTT but could be wrong. I just put up more and looking like heading in the right direction. Still waiting for them to be active. I've got blisters forming and a sore back. Hit a crapload of balls today.